NIT – Some say that the 47 Republican Senators who wrote a letter to the leaders of Iran and warned that any deal signed with President Barack Obama on their nuclear ambitions was a treasonous act.
A petition on the White house website (one of many petitions) has been signed by over 250,000 people and asks for criminal charges to be filed against the 47 u.S. Senators who signed the letter.
The petition states:
On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.
At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.
This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.
Others say the terms being negotiated by the Obama administration with Iran are too lenient and could pave a clear path for Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon, something the world fears.
The petition exceeded 100,000 signatures within 30 days, so the White House is required to respond.
What do you think? Were the senators right or wrong in sending the letter?
History, for those of you that don’t read and understand, shows the Democrats, not the Repubs, are guilty of foreign actions against a sitting president such as Pelosi going to Iran to try and negotiate, traitor Kerry visiting Daniel Ortega (he seemed to love commies)…the list is endless.
There is nothing wrong with the letter. Look at where this country is after six years of Obama!
Were I black I’d be damn mad for his desire to put 5-6 million illegals to work.
@Al-Great comments. They always seem to forget when they go into attack mode.
When takin into account all of President Obama’s actions and the way he has governed over the last six years I understand why the Senate and American People do not trust him.
Obama has never considered anyone’s idea or the negative effects of his policies.
Dictator is an appropriate moniker for him. His hatred for others comes through loud and clear.
The Republicans have been bullied for 6 years. Time to stand up against tyranny and insist the President honor our Constitution.
“Dictator is an appropriate moniker for him. His hatred for others comes through loud and clear.”
Your hatred of him comes through loud and clear. Your prejudices come through loud and clear. Your lack of intelligence comes through loud and clear.
@bodacious-here you go again playing the race card. Watchdog said nothing at all about his race. It is always the last resort of the liberals when they have no other argument.
Here you go playing the race card. I said nothing about race. I said his prejudices come through loud and clear. And his prejudice is clearly anti-Democrat.
Peter is a bully. Stopped by to read the blogs and what do I find? Philosophus just takes off on a tangent blogging and blogging and blogging trying to dominate others. That kind of blogging demonstrates the character of a bully.
He does the same thing on every topic.
Mental health and anger management may be able to help your behaviour.
Philosopus, stop being a bully!
Just saying.
Damn, censorship is alive and well here again. I tried to get back to intelligent discussion and pow, I’m censored. That’s it, there is no hope on this site.
I understand the whole privatization of the internet schpeel, but you know what would be refreshing? If a website or web moderator would truly create a FREE SPEECH ZONE, and be committed to letting ANY IDEA or words fly. I realize that could get really contentious when personal names or information are flown about, but wow wouldn’t that be intense? 100% FREE SPEECH with no edits or deletions. And no, it’s not just NIT…tons of websites moderate and censor. Real shame it is.
Maybe because your words are borderline seditious?
I challenge the concept of Nationalism, and you call that idea or cross examination “seditious”? You either have free speech or you do not. Free speech means to actually question the concept of free speech. It means ANYTHING can be spoken or written about. I get that you are a Nationalist, but I see your Nationalism as living within the confines of a cult…much like Sharia law. For this I get deleted? I can understand a posting limit, but set it, and keep it equal.
If you say I think we need a new government that would be free speech but if you say come and join me in killing our leaders I am not sure if they would take that as free speech. It is no secret that I do believe we need new leaders but you will never hear me say we need to kill them.
that’s a valid point that you raise maybe, and the real tricky aspect of free speech. but ultimately yes, a person would need to be able to implore violence if that is what they chose to do with their free speech. free speech is just that: free. There can be no substitutions, alterations, or exceptions. the government can monitor that person for signs they are conspiring or plotting, but the actual words they write must be allowed.
personally I would like to see a government run open forum for citizens to register and discuss. had I won the election, I was planning on opening up City Hall in that manner. I believe and citizen input, & a true 100% free speech zone protected by the government. as Nit proves, the private sector cannot be trusted to allow the free flow of an individual’s ideas.
Even Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif dismissed the GOP letter as a propaganda ploy and laughable.
How pathetic is it when the GOP is schooled by the Iranians?
And Germany and England, partners in the negotiations, have decried the GOP letter as stupid and dangerous to the world.
The GOP Senators should retract their letter and apologize for their stupidity.
Another sad part is that you have sheep like LVS that support these clowns.
But then sheep are rather stupid animals.
While I’m disgusted with the mental midgetry of LVS, I don’t exactly agree that united states elected officials should remain lockstepped with the executive and have their own 1st amendment rights curtailed. I don’t believe in chain of command.
I don’t believe citizenship is by divine will, and I think every person has the right to free associations and the right to align themselves politically in policy was with whom ever they choose. We didn’t get to choose our births. The system should be flexible to allow humans to find their true homes.
ultimately I would like to see the dismantling of all the world’s flags, and a classification of ideas, ideals, mutual interests and beliefs represented any more accurate manner. I believe regions should exist based on similarities, not forced, but freely chosen. then original identity could evolve
but in order for these free associations to occur the bullies and nationalists on both sides of the ocean and in all areas of the world must be defeated and cleared out.
The 47 Senators are wrong not because they reached out to a foreign government by letter, but because their true intentions were to create favorable conditions for war, and to subvert the black President of the United States for petty partisan, racist, and bitter reasons. We all know the GOP defends the defense contractor’s interests, and we know defense contractors want to see bombs flying and more weapons manufactured. A true path to peace is not wanted by War Makers.
The Republican party’s hatred is so deep and illogical they just can’t help harming themselves over and over again.
Inviting a foreign leader to disrespect our president wasn’t enough. They had to write to a foreign leader and take their obstructionism to overseas.
47 Republican senators signed a note to the world declaring that they can’t be trusted to uphold an international agreement.
How embarrassing for the Republicans to be schooled by the Iranians on our own constitution.
I just noticed something that even a neanderthal like you should be able to understand. Do you remember a time in history when the hatred between the parties has been so great? Not only has obama spread the race war and the war between the parties. I just can’t believe that he has so many people convinced that he is a god. Ignorance or stupidity is surely running rampant in our society today.
That might be true if we had a leader but Obama couldn’t lead a man dying of thirst to a glass of water. He leads from behind because that is all he is capable of.
“I do not believe these Republican senators were trying to sell out America.
I do believe they defied the chain of command in what could be construed as an illegal act.”
“To directly engage a foreign entity, in this way, undermining the strategy and work of our diplomats and our Commander in Chief, strains the very discipline and structure that our foreign relations depend on, to succeed.”
“I would use the word mutinous”
Retired Major Gen. Paul D. Eaton
And, it wouldn’t have been necessary if Obama had not been playing King. When he said he would veto the legal legislation they had no choice. They feel he is selling the country down the drain. With his history I can certainly understand that. He has refused to work with the congress and if he wasn’t so close to being out of office he would be impeached. They had no choice because it is their job to protect the country.
You’re a fool.
You do realize that the negotiations are a multi-national effort, not just the USA.
You just attempt to rationalize their behavior because of your blind hatred of Obama.
You have solutions for nothing, bitch about everything and contempt for those who try.
Correction, you’re not a fool, you’re an idiot.
It is a good thing that Obama’s authorized raid to kill bin Laden was kept a secret or the Republicans would have written bin Laden a letter to warn him.
pot calling the kettle black
@Boomer-You are a complete idiot. You are not even capable of having a discussion. I didn’t call you names although there are certainly a lot of them that fit someone as stupid as you. What are you? Philosopus y posting under a different name again. Boomer my ass, dumb ass is more like it.
How appropriate that the Beavis & Butthead of NIT chime in together once more.
There is no such thing as a discussion with you LVS (butt-head).
Your bigotry & ignorance preclude any type of intellectual discussion as you are nothing more than a pathetic old man, out of touch with reality and oh ya, an idiot.
You and your minion, Maybe (Beavis) are quite the pair….one brain damaged, the other brain dead.
Boomer, If there was a ‘like’ button here, I would push it.
Just read my previous post. It tells you everything. And, of course bodacious had to show his ignorance once again. He is to stupid to compete any other way.
compete with who old man?
Glad to see others finally hitting LVS with the truth on how he behaves. Hey, y’all don’t have to like me and my views, but I hope you at least recognize that I’m interested in having intellectual conversations about the affairs of life, and with an attack Troll like LVS guarding the bridge, it’s been damn near impossible. Maybe is at least a bit more intelligent and courteous in how he relays his views. But with LVS…the rabies shots and the .45 slug DIDN’T WORK! 🙂
Strangely enough, there was a time when LVS actually supported me before he decided he hated me. He was much more seemingly tolerant than the one calling himself “Observer”. And he’ll deny it now, but he was once against loud tailpipes. He calls everyone else a liar for changing their positions incidentally. I found a picture of LVS on the net. Check it out.
Ok peter and boomer and bodacious, lets see how informed you are. Take this test. I missed 2 of 12.
http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/the-news-iq-quiz/results/
I will post this once so read it very slowly so even your dead brains will understand it: When a President can pick and choose which laws to follow and which laws to ignore, he is no longer a President, he is a dictator and the elected congressmen have a duty to stop him.
Obama is doing another executive order, it is: we will no longer call stealing looting, from now on it will be called UNDOCUMENTED SHOPPING.
Wow LVS, you can’t even come up with an original insult, you just use the same words said about you and flip them.
But then a person of your limited intelligence can only parrot the words of others.
Case in point, your comment about the President is word for word identical to the Ted Cruz comment.
Classic case of an imbecile parroting another imbecile.
LVS, were your parents siblings or just first cousins?
Either way, your father should have used a condom.
@Boomer-Damn you are ignorant. What Cruz said is true even if you are to stupid to understand it. Mention my family again and I will find you.
Geez, the afternoon sauce is getting to LVS.
maybe, I took the quiz. scored 9 of 12. Here’s a link to the results: Pew Research Quiz taken by Philosophus. These type of unsubstantiated margin of error questions I don’t really believe in to be factual when it comes to National unemployment rates, or Americans living below the poverty line. But I missed the Federal minimum wage question fair and square.
I just thought it was interesting, I missed the one on what does the government spend the most money on and who is the chair for the federal reserve. I figured some of the questions might be a trick because they said as the government said which we all know isn’t even close.
I scored 9/12 too. Missed the same 2 as you and the one about Sunnis and Shias.
In iraq we went over who was where so that one was probably the easiest for me but some of the others I had to think about it.
When I read the letter, it’s tone was like that of an adolescent retort. It was condescending, inaccurate, brash and stupid.
The pseudo-patriotism on display from these Republican Senators would be funny if it weren’t so damn dangerous.
Anyone that thinks that these Republican Senators were right on this are fools and sorely in need of a civics lesson.
The actions of these Senators pushes the envelope for treason.
Funny thing obama did the same thing with iran against bush back in 2008.
Hypocrisy much there, Maybe.
Every time that someone mentions something that Bush did wrong (which was a heck of a lot), you get all huffy and proclaim “Still trying to blame Bush, huh?” or ‘That was in the past and has nothing to do with this”.
You claim to be an Independent, in reality you’re just another Tea Party neo-con, but too embarrassed to admit it.
Obama & Democrats have made some mistakes, so when are you going to man up and admit that the Republicans blew this one.
There is alot in both parties that I don’t like, the main thing is lying, Like I said obama did the same thing these senators did, the liberals are calling these senators traitors yet obama did the exact same thing. HYPOCRISY runs rampant in the democratic party.
And your hypocrisy shines through again, Maybe.
You say the main thing you don’t like is lying. Interesting, since in another section I saw where you like and support Allen West.
Allen West is a rapid liar both while in congress and since then. And he should have been court martialed for what he did in the military.
I guess that is OK for you though since he is a Tea party guy.
Say what good you want to about West, but putting flowers in an asshole doesn’t make it a vase.
I said I liked west because he was in the military, I said nothing about supporting him and the only time I have heard anybody call him a liar is right now from you and that holds no water with me. What is it with you libs always trying to start a fight?
Is it just me you are after boomer? Watchdog says the same thing yet you attack me. Like most bullies they go after just 1 person, if there is more than 1 they run like little girls.
The Pot calls the Kettle Black! Maybe said it first.
According to Pajamas Media columnist Michael Ledeen, in 2008, a Democratic senator sent a personal emissary to Tehran encouraging the mullahs not to sign an agreement with the outgoing Bush Administration as negotiations would take on a much friendlier tone following President Bush’s departure from office.
That senator was a presidential candidate at the time. His name was Barack Obama.
Obama is a hypocrite with Muslim leanings.
@watchdog-Clinton and Carter both sent letters to other country’s when they disagreed with the president too. They seem to try to forget that.
It never would have happened if Obama had not threatened to veto the legislation that would include the senate in the process. Obama brought it on with his imperial complex and arrogance.
Please lie to us again and tell us how you are Independent.
What does me being a independent have to do with you and Obama being liars? That is why you become a independent so you can vote for the best person. Now an embarrassment like you wouldn’t know anything about that. As a FELON you probably can’t vote anyway so go away again.
Do you remember way back when I described the ‘brown shirted thugs’ who protect the fascist elements they serve at all cost to the public’s expense? That is how many see you LVS.
No one cares about your opinion. You are a absolute nothing. You don’t live here, you don’t belong here so go away and stay away. You embarrassing P.O.S.
Thanks LVS. Those are the most inspiring words I’ve seen you scribe. And you’re right…I don’t live there, and I feel great about that.
And, we are certainly happy you are gone. The quality of the people living here has just improved 100%. Now, stay gone and stay out of our business. You are not wanted in Iowa and certainly most of us do not want a weasel like you on here.
I find it odd and somewhat amusing that this administration felt what these 47 Republicans did, was wrong and undermines our political process. What they did in fact could be considered as issuing their own form of an “Executive Order.”
I guess it just depends on who’s running the whip as to how things are interpreted.
This administration and a great many others felt that these congressmen were doing something that amounted to treason. You don’t tell another nation not to parley with the administration because of what might happen in 2 years.
@Anonymous-Sure you do, when the administration is obviously a traitor to the country like this administration is.
In 2008 iran was talking with bush and it wasn’t going very well for them so obama sent them a message telling them to wait till he was president. What is the difference between what obama did and these senators did?
250,000 signatures are not very many when you consider that there are over 300 million people in America.
For me they should have addressed their letter to President Obama and sent a “Carbon Copy” to the Iranians. The Iranians needed to be made aware that Obama does not have the support of the American People.
Sooner or later we are going to be at war with Iran and I would just as soon they didn’t have a nuclear bomb.
Enough with the politics! This is dam serious!
Both you and maybe say the people don’t support the President. Yet, he was re-elected. And both of you often cite your own military backgrounds. Read this to see that not all military people think like you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/03/13/tom-cotton-picked-apart-by-army-general-over-mutinous-iran-letter/
Yes he was re-elected with the help of over 6 million dead people and who knows how many illegals. Not to mention all the people that are on welfare that are capable of working who just want a free ride. Now before you attack me on this not all people on welfare fall into this bracket. Some people are on welfare for a good reason and are trying to get off of it but some like it there.
“(Obama) re-elected with the help of over 6 million dead people and who knows how many illegals.” -Maybe
Wow, what a lie from a guy that says he doesn’t like liars.
You are really blowing hypocritical smoke out of your butt with that one there Maybe.
You really have no clue do you, obama won big with you. Ignorance can only go so far before it’s called stupidity. If you want to a productive part of society you really need to see whats going on out there and not just what the liberal god tells you to believe.
I am the one who doesn’t like liars. That is probably why I don’t like someone like you that attacks for no reason and then makes up bullsh## lies trying to justify your argument.