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Mason City woman rips YMCA for “worst experience”

A Mason City woman, Angie Fistler Walker, today blasted the local YMCA for what she called the “worst experience there” and felt so strongly about it that she posted the following open letter to them about her experience on her public Facebook page:

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Mason City YMCA
Mason City YMCA

The YMCA can kiss my a**!!! Here is my letter to them……
I am not sure who to direct this letter to but I am hoping it ends up in the right hands. I had the worst experience there today and would not wish it on anyone. The holidays themselves are so stressful anyways and yet to come into your establishment and be treated the way I was just made things that much harder. My thoughts on the YMCA have changed dramatically and I want you to know that I am going to voice it to whomever will listen.

First let me admit that yes I do know the woman that handles the scholarships and decides I guess who gets one and who doesn’t, although I was under the impression that everyone was allowed a membership if they are able to pay. My daughter had spent the night at her house years ago with her daughter and she asked “well, we go to church in the morning, does she have something appropriate for church, because I’m not sure if I have anything that would fit her.” Second, her daughter was invited to a birthday party of a mutual friend and apparently had forgotten a towel at the party, well she had called and called and called about this beach towel, unknowing to her that the person that had the party was in the hospital. When she finally did get ahold of this person, she said, “my daughter left her beach towel at the party and I have been calling you for days now and you never responded” my friend replied “I am so sorry, my daughter has been in the hospital for several days now and I haven’t had a chance to get back to you” the response was not what you would expect, it was not is she ok, I am sorry, is there anything I can do, it was “so when do I get the towel back?” This is the type of person that you have deciding if someone with low income should attend the YMCA? Obviously this person has herself above others. I knew she was in charge and I avoided coming in to apply but with Christmas here and the kids having so much time off, I thought it may be a good Christmas present for my kids since I can’t afford much at all this Christmas, but I swallowed my pride for my kids and came in and left in tears.

I was told AT THE FRONT DESK INFRONT OF ANYONE COMING IN AND OUT that I was not showing her anyway that I would be able to afford coming to the Y. Are you serious? Is that not what I was doing there? Applying for help? She says, “I know your husband has an income” well first of all, you do not know me or my situation, I was not applying for him, I was applying for myself and my children and if you must know, no he does not have an income at this time. I said I can bring you anything you need as far as my check stubs etc. and that I didn’t have tax info because I was a student for the last 3 yrs, she says, so how did you live, because I am not seeing any way of how you did……….believe me I KNOW!!! I HAVEN’T! I am trying to give my kids a better life and trying to get on my feet but that is not for you to decide. I don’t think it is up to someone sitting in the back room eating whatever it was she was wiping off her face when she came out, to know how I planned on paying, maybe my mom was going to cover it each month, maybe my dad, who cares? Should you not give me at least a month to prove to you that I can and will pay??? I had to come home and explain to my kids AGAIN sorry, mommy is too poor to even afford to take you to the Y even though I have taken them at least once a week for the last couple of weeks and paid $5 for each of them, so $15 each week to come and swim. But I guess that didn’t matter to her, she would just rather shove me under the rug than to have someone of my “status” in your establishment. Well thanks a lot and Merry Christmas to you!

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I guess the Y has had to be a little more selective since they’ve allowed grown men who are upstanding members of our community to do naked jumping jacks and “squats” in the locker room.

However, I’m not going to resort to the nature of some of the comments in here, but I just can’t help wondering if there isn’t something missing in this story… curious as to what the other side’s story would be.

Screw the Y. The trendy over rated outrageous cost sex deluxe palace. You won’t miss a thing.

We know who this person is and what an ass she is… the ones supporting the Y here are just like that. arrogant assholes period. They don’t want anyone privy to the real people they are.

Oh and Rasta,…good morning…got any herb to smoke bud? You’re alright brother.

What’s wrong with all of you? Why are you here? This is why,…because you have no life. To pick at Angie is despicable. Thank God for the “good people” that can see this as what it is. That gives me hope. Most of you mentally challenged sons a bitches that can’t spell properly or construct a proper sentence…I don’t know what to do with you. This and that poor dog being shot upsets me. Angie,…I’m sorry, but this is our world. To have to deal with it is a dilemma all it’s own. You seem like a very decent person…don’t let the bastards…bitter, jaded, low-lifes get to you and have a Merry Christmas.

Why is it the Y’s problem you can’t afford membership for your children? I came from a time if you can’t afford something you didn’t buy it and didn’t expect someone else to pay for it. There are after-school program with Park and Rec, and how about playing outside or at a park, its “free”. There are children who don’t go to the Y whose parents are not members and use other facilities. If you are unhappy with the Y or the person who mistreated with you take it with their manager. It’s not fair to trash the whole YMCA because of a grievance you have with one staff member. The staff at the Y are always very friendly and helpful. The women’s locker room continually has children in the locker room when there are signs to use the Family Locker room which is very frustrating for someone who does pay full membership prices.

Don’t be envious mon, the Y wants everyone to be able to use the facilities because it’s a non profit exempt from most taxes mon. If you have an issue with the Y offering scholarships than you should complain to them, not chastise the young lady. Rastaman has used a reduced priced membership in the past, when the man kept him down from earning money in the white mans world mon.

Rasta are you negro?

Long time NI resident and Y member (20 years). If I stopped going to all the places around here where someone was less than friendly that waited on me or my family, we’d have to eat drink and shop everyday in Rochester or Waterloo.

That being said, I can’t speak for Angie’s experience as I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened. I only know that while there are some negatives being pointed out about the Y, the positives completely outweigh them. I have found nearly (not all) of the staff wonderful, friendly and helpful. While I am not calling out the guy who said he fell and was pointed at and laughed at by staff a liar, I am saying I find it pretty hard to believe. Pretty hard indeed.
The facility is top notch and clean (super clean) and the equipment is in good repair most of the time. The classes are fun and nurturing to newbies and inexperienced (cyling, yoga) There is little in the way of thug gym rat types, in fact its quite the opposite compared to other gyms that I have been to. The pool is great, the track is incredible and the basketball courts are full of lots of different people (age, color, sex) having fun together. While I can’t speak to the women’s lockeroom, the men’s locker room is clean, the showers hot and the steam and saunas are in good working order. Other than the 3 guys that did whatever, I have not seen anyone or anything inapporpriate in the locker room. Kids and cell phones should not be in the locker room, and if you’re uncomfortable with people in various states of undress then USE THE FAMILY LOCKER ROOM for privacy.
The YMCA in Mason City has taken a beating in recent times and most of what is being said is unfair and not necessarily the whole truth. There are hundreds of people that go there day in and day out without a complaint and get out of the Y what they want. I am sorry Angie had this experience, hopefully whoever is in charge will look into it fully and come to some resolution.

Can you articulate what exactly “thug gym rat types” are? Thanks.

I can for you….they are the type of people who would use the name “Iowa Sucks”. Generally don’t have a lot of respect for themself let alone others. Hope this helps!

Just the kind of weight lifter person that would intimidate (unintentionally) the average joe from wanting to lift on the same squat rack as them. I probably should not have come across as derogetory on that line, as I didn’t mean to offend.
My point was meant to be that nearly everyone I have met on the weight room floor (young and old) have been friendly, helpful and fun (not the sterotypical type of weightlifter you see on TV)so I apologize for my description.

I’ve found the hardcore lifters or “gym rats” to be very helpful. They seem to want to mentor newbies and are happy others are interested in their passion. Ya, they can look intimating from the outside but you have to get over that.

Agreed. I find that most people are nice and helpful if you ask for help in a nice manner.

Anybody do the cryptoquote in yesterday’s Globe? “This is the first test of a gentleman (could have also said “lady”) : his respect for those who can be of no possible value to him.” – William Lyon Phelps. Whether Angie had the ability to pay or if she qualified for any discounts, I don’t know. She most certainly did, however, deserve to be treated with respect.

The cryptoquote is a syndicated puzzle. It has nothing to do with the paper’s agenda.

Sounds to me you have a vendetta against this person otherwise why would you bring up personal stuff between you two. You were told no, get over it. How about she question no one and the Y goes under? Way to public ally humiliate her. That to me shows a lot about you. I don’t know this person who denied you something you felt entitled too, but you are completely out of bounds here. I have been a single mom. I not once asked for a handout. I had priorities and I relied on no one to help me. Maybe this will teach you to not feel entitled. Obviously you don’t like the word no. Look what happens when no someone tells you no? Get over it. The Y is a positive for many, I have been going there for years and paid for myself and my children. Do the same.

The Y wants everyone to be able to use the Y regardless of income. Don’t like it, complain to the Y.

First let me clear up a few things, I had no idea when I wrote this it would turn into such a big debate, nor did I know so many bad things would be said, I didn’t want anything to hurt my kids but some of the comments on here are just insane. I don’t think some of you that posted even read what I wrote or understood the point I was trying to make. There is so much talk of bullying in schools these days and I just thought it was a good example of bullying as we get older, you people commenting on here and hiding behind your screen names are bullies and I would almost bet you have kids for bullies too.
I was not asking for a free membership, I was applying for something that was offered! What was not said was that I also offered my time to volunteer ON TOP OF PAYING for my monthly membership but she never even looked at anything on the application other than my financials. If she doesn’t like her job I would gladly sit in her chair and would be a lot more apathetic to people applying. I was applying for something that is offered by the Y and was not applying for the Country Club!
I recently graduated from NIACC trying to build a better life for my kids and trying to show them that it’s never too late to go back, and I have a job, I do not have insurance and do not get handouts every month! I work for my money also but have also had many times where I have had to wait for that gallon of milk as someone pointed out. I didn’t think I needed to go into total disclosure with the public to say that I didn’t like how I was treated. Boo Hoo is right, I do have a sense of entitlement, and that is to be treated with dignity and respect, not to be belittled in front of a crowd of people. I have struggled, I struggle everyday just to put gas in the car to get my kids to school because they don’t ride the bus even though it is FREE! And I did not sign up for Toys for Tots or anything like that because I have been saving and buying little things here and there for Christmas so the less fortunate than me can have these things, and also because my kids know that it’s not what is under the tree or how much is under the tree, it’s being thankful for what we do have, just thought that they could have a membership at the Y so they could join their friends over the Christmas break.
I am so moved by the story of the war veteran that fell out of his wheelchair and was pointed at and laughed at by the people that work there, only to be helped up by a few kids playing basketball. My story does not even compare to that, but that is one of the reasons I wrote this, how does that kind of thing even happen? It is not about money or entitlement, it is about being a human and treating others with respect, everyone in that building should have stopped and helped this man up, he is the reason we all stand here today.

“sniper1” Well said and a big thank you. “SEMPER FI” MERRY CHRISTMAS

yes it is true the people from bg clark do go to the y free, most of them go just to take a shower, and watch nude people show off. Most of them are in bg for theft or sexual contact, that’s the last place I would want to go,and relax.

Anyone up for a game of “Mumbly Peg” in the men’s locker room? After that “episode” why would you want your kids to be there? Ugh.

I know Angie well. She is a hard, hard working mother trying to give the best life she can for her kids and to do it with grace and dignity. For the Y to treat her this way is nauseating. She was not asking for anything that she didn’t (or shouldn’t) qualify for, but was simply inquiring about what her best options were that were fair and equitable for all parties. And all done in the spirit of trying to give her kids the best life she could with what she had. We would all be so lucky to come across these inspirational people in our day to day lives, but apparently the Y didn’t receive that memo.

this information needs to be sent to higher authorities.

I am a disabiled vet and went there threw mercy rehab. I slipped ina wet area and two workers pointed and laughed. I got no help getting up except by a couple older teen agers who were playing basketball. After that I never went back.

That’s just awful and says a lot! Thanks for your service. It sounds like the place is full of jocks or something with an attitude.

I am so sorry this happened to you! Thank you for your service to our country!

My story dulls in comparison to yours, I’m so very sorry that happened to you but I am glad that you could tell the story and I THANK YOU for all you have done for all of us and bravo to the teenagers that helped you!

Oh, and I want to add that there are weeks when I would have given anything for my worst thing to be telling my kids that “mommy is too poor” that I couldn’t afford $15 to take my kids swimming. Angie, you may struggle with having to tell your kids that you can’t take them swimming, but how would you have felt when you had to tell them that you can’t buy a gallon of milk until you get paid??? You may laugh and say that doesn’t happen, but to moan and cry about your kids not being able to go swimming when others can’t even buy milk and actually act like you are so poor, it is demeaning to those of us who have really known real poverty.

Again please don’t huge me, you don’t think that has happened to me? Well it has many times! Don’t presume you know me!

I got tired of broken equipment and rising memberships rates. Left the Y after several years.

Final straw for me was 2 of their part-time employees (him and her work full-time jobs during the day) looking up member’s information at the computer that displays the member’s information as they swipe their card to enter the building. I guess these 2 didn’t realize I was over by the coffee machine and observed their antics. The entire staff is unprofessional and a gossip mill.

I was a member there for a few months. Until I found out how much others were paying. Take a look at North Iowa Mugshots and you will see many of them there, paying little if anything for their membership. There is a reason for several thefts a week there.

angie. hope you read this!!!!!!!!!! we can help you for your kids at x-mas, come to the salvation army on friday my group (te united states marines corps, league) is doing toy for tots w/food baskets … see tracy & get singed up fri at 8:00am tell her a marine said we would take care of this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO THIS……..OOHRAH!

God Bless you sniper1 !!!

I have known Angie for many years. She is NOT looking for a hand-out. She is looking for a hand-
UP!!! There is a big difference! NO ONE, and I repeat, NO ONE has the right to treat another person inferior, especially in front of people who were in the same area this conversation took place. It was very unprofessional of that woman to tell Angie or anyone else that “she knows her husband has income” and she should have kept her smart remarks to herself. Would it of killed her to take Angie into her office and explain things, or maybe even go the extra mile to find a way to make it work???? Merry Christmas Scrooge!

So she isn’t looking for a handout, but on the other hand she is expecting something for free that others have to pay for? I would call that a hand out. I’m a single mom and although I’ve struggled at times I was always appreciative of anything I was able to get for my kids that I otherwise would have had to pay for.

One thing my dad taught me when I was growing up was that “the world doesn’t owe you a living” and for Angie to EXPECT that the general public should give from their pockets because her husband decided to go back to school I’m totally appalled. Seriously, after he gets out of school, how much money is he going to make and how much is he really going to give back to society???

My parents divorced when I was little and my mom went back to college so she could provide a better living for my sibling and I. We didn’t belong to any sort of health clubs nor did we have anything extra such as cable or internet. You make sacrifices when YOU make a choice to pursue things in your life!! It is NOT the taxpayer or contributor’s responsibility to support you! Really? Do you expect us to sympathize with you and hate people who don’t agree with you because YOU MADE THIS CHOICE???? Get F’ing real!!!

I’m sorry Angie if you don’t feel like the whole world supports your choices. Guess what, we don’t have to! Waaa Waaa that you were treated rudely. I’m pretty sure that the person that was rude to you is probably rude to everyone no matter how much they make. People are like that. Stop whining about how you are so special just because you get stuff free and start appreciating what is given to you.

The bottom line is that although Angie paints herself out to be some struggling mom, she really is a person who for some reason feels that her personal choices that result in a sacrifice should be supported by everyone. Guess what, we don’t have to support you and we aren’t obligated to support you.

Yes, I know I’m going to be persecuted for what I’ve said, but know that I’ve been in the darkest of places and I’ve worked my a** off to get out of those places. I never expected anyone to hand me anything because of the consequences of my choices. If Angie were someone who had some sort of disability or inability to support her family I would be the first person in line to stand up for her, but it seems to me that she is pulling at all your heart strings and crying “poor me” to get sympathy from others.

Since I became financial stable (due to a lot of hard work and sacrifices) I have given back to the Y in appreciation for what they do. Effective today I will no longer give another penny to them because I see that people like Angie take the hard earned dollars I give for granted and feel that they are entitled to them.

To all the people who slam those who have questioned Angie, do you really think that we have some sort of responsibility to give money so people like Angie and her family can get things for free when they make choices that mean they have to sacrifice things? My answer is NO! and if we do it is what is called a GIFT. Why is that so difficult to understand????

The Y has done a great job in supporting our communities and just because one person, who is getting services for free, wasn’t treated with the privilege she felt she “deserved” we want to throw them under the bus. Get a grip and get a grip on reality.

‘nuf said

You nailed this – This is the exact reason I am considering withdrawing our family membership to the Y. I have always wondered why several folks never have cards to scan like our family does. The attitude of this Angie lady scares me. It sounds like both women needed to take a deep breath before they spoke.

Dat’s all fine and dandy mon, but the YMCA WANTS to make it affordable for everyone regardless of income. Don’t take it out on this young lady, take it up with the Y if you don’t like it. If she fits within their income guidelines she may be able to pay a reduced fee. Period!

Realitytherapy,

Obviously, you cannot read or cannot comprehend what was written. ANGIE went back to school, NOT her husband! Angie didn’t ask for anything to be FREE, but perhaps she could get a reduced rate for her children. I am a single mom also. I know what it is to struggle. Therefore, I have much compassion for others, something that was not instilled in you or you just plain don’t have. May I suggest you take a course in reading and comprehension because you bombed on your rude and obnoxious comments!

The simple truth of the matter is humans piggyback off of other humans…as all life does. No human came out of the hatch as Rambo and survived in the woods alone…or built himself Rome. They used the system for their advantage. They used and manipulated others to their advantage. Some are naturally charismatic and better at it than others…but don’t delude yourself into believing people haven’t drawn help from others…because they have. Resources can be shifted around in many configurations, but there are still only so many of them. Imagine that if instead of this little “money club” we had a society that took into account demographics and necessity and just provided without all this notion of exclusion, elitism and wealth. Basically the Y has exercise equipment, saunas, steam rooms, whirlpools, swimming pool, raquetball courts, running track, and gymnasium. Those are all things that have been around since the Greeks. Instead of worrying about who is paying for what…why not just open it up for everyone and do away with this “money” thing? It’s actually testimony that the cities of the world have failed for not providing the same services as public recreation facilities. I have never liked the fact that it’s “Young Men’s Christian Association”. But where else can you go? Lazy damn city governments are really to blame here.

Spoken like a true classic Greek, the birthplace of democracy.

PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME! COWARD!!

I am a friend of Angie and she talked over this situation with a few of her friends, and we encouraged her to voice how mistreated she felt and how unhelpful and rude this staff person was. It is very sad that anyone should ever treat another human being unkindly. Always remember “But for the Grace of God, go you or I”.

Dear Wow-

I think that you are being disrespectful to Angie. How would you feel if you where in Angie’s spot. Well guess what you piss me off to. What mostly makes me angry is that you are speaking from no experience. I think you should keep you s*** opinion to your s*** self. I support Angie all the way. -Cookie

Thank you Cookie!

Angie Walker is incredibly rude to be having this posted here. It is a private matter to take up with personnel directors at the Y – not in this forum.

The lady in charge over at the Y has always been respectful and considerate to all by my observation – you should have spoken with her. I do not know who you dealt with but it is horrible to put such a nasty letter in this news forum without first attempting to resolve things with those in charge at the Y.

I agree with the poster – hello – simply fill out the paperwork. You should have just asked for it instead of getting into your details with whoever it was. That person was inappropriate, but this is not the forum for this in my opinion and it pisses me.

And what is all the stupid garble garble about parties and towels and misunderstandings with phone calls – who gives a shit. So what if the person wanted the towel back – geez.

The Y is too expensive overall, but it’s to make up for all the free and reduced memberships they hand out. And, btw, I’m also so sick of entitlement attitude.

It pisses you? Well it did me too! I also tried to contact the Y as did a friend of mine who had the same experience and nothing happened. I do not have a sense of entitlement, but I do expect to be treated with some respect, I was told about the program and applied, silly me.

I just got done reading your comment to the published story. First off I wouldn’t even call it a comment more like a heated behind chewing. You are the most narrow minded and rudest person!! Seriously for one a person can speak their mind on their own Facebook that is what makes it their own. Secondaly if someone wants to write a letter or email regarding their experience it is in their right to do so. But do you need to be so mean in an open forum? Yes you have a right to your opinion but why do it like this?? It was mean. And some people really can’t afford things and some can’t. And then you have the ones that really know a person and their situation and looks “down on them”. Kind of like you just did. So maybe you should take a damn humanity class and find your true self. Your personally as a person sucks not to mention shallow as well. Especially around the holidays tsk tsk. Take a look in the mirror, check your soul out cause from your comments you do not have one!

Thank you Stacy, Matt asked my permission to publish and I said sure, why not, but I didn’t know I would be ridiculed in this way.

You are welcome! This “Wow” person as is aid needs to take a humanity class and I also feel is lacking social skills as well when I re-read the comment. The words were just down right mean and rude. No need to be hurtful. Wow may be pissed off but the person doesn’t need to pissen on other people as well!!

I was more then willing to pay a monthly fee to join, I wasn’t asking for a free membership, just to be clear, and she said “I don’t see any way you can”

All you have to do is simply fill out the paperwork and show proof of income. The person at the counter shouldn’t have been making accusations about your income without any proof.

One time they gave me an award letter, I altered it and gave myself an even bigger discount and the night girl plugged it into the computer and I was virtually free. There are work arounds for almost everything. When the man pushes, you fudge and win.

So you forged a document and lied and are now proud of it? Nice…

Ya mon, when the man keeps you down, you must find a way to survive. Society has never discriminated against a Rastaman, right mon?

For people saying I work hard and pay the full price for my Y membership are you serious?! Good for you…however they have those scholarship programs for a REASON. Reason being get kids involved even if its at a discounted rate. If they didn’t want to offer that discounted fee they don’t have to make that program. The problem is this person was insulted and treated unfairly. If you put the reason as to why she was in there to the side and simply focus on how she was treated I think we can all agree it was INCREDIBLY WRONG/HURTFUL. As for this person there are plenty of activities for this winter that are free. Sledding, library, Humane society, mcnider art museum…Search around you can find free/low cost activities

I am not the only one this has happened to, others have had the same experience, and why shouldn’t we go there? If I can’t afford it don’t do it? Who are you to tell me? Post names! I just graduated from NIACC and trying to get on my feet again so please don’t judge me or my life unless you know my situation Thank You.

All Y’s are a bit different. My Y for instance allows a 60% discount if low income and does not allow steam room use unless you have a doctors prescription.

The Cedar River Complex in Osage does not allow nudies in the steam room and it’s a good thing. Who needs raw anus on these benches anyhow. Old men especially like it raw.

This is what liberalism does, this person is entitled to have her kids be at the Y.
Is it still OK for those of us who have to PAY real dollars to go there? Or should it just be for the entitled?
Give up smokes and McDonalds and you can afford it too.

I don’t mean to sound heartless but I agree with you. My husband and I work 3 jobs and still can’t afford for our kids to have a membership at the Y because we make too much $. We are punished because we are trying to do things the right way and not live off of others. If you can’t afford it, don’t do it.

If the Y is not giving a discount rate to kids whose parents would not be able to afford it, why do the have a partners in youth campaign every year, where they ask for donation from business and individuals to fund those kids. Are some of you saying that just because a child isn’t from a family with any disposable income they don’t deserve to belong to the Y. Wow-do we really want to live in a place where everything is all for me- some of you must have forgotten your lessons in sharing

Well said

No surprise here!!! They have never even issued a formal apology for the problems with the weenie-waggers in the steam room….. They are about as Christian as the Hindu god- Shiva….

The only people that are really welcome are the elite – top 1-2% just like everywhere else since Bookmeyer and Robin Anderson have taken over Mason City.

4 years is a long to wait to get him out of office….

Please leave the Hindu God Shiva out of this! Shiva is a good God.

Siva the Destroyer? A good god? You better read up on Hindu mythology again. Granted, destruction has its place, but at least know what you are talking about before you post.

He’s comparing his religion with others as being non Christian and thus inferior. No one religion is superior to any other.

I do not think any religion inferior. I was merely contrasting Christianity with Hinduism…

Just as I could Christianity with Judaism, or Buddhism, or Taoism or Shintoism or and of the other isms out there.

That is all it was…

Robin Anderson might be running our city but the trouble maker gets the greedy’s elected, helps them stay in so they do favors for his friends is Todd Blodgett. I got it from real good authority Toddy boy helps Bookie and Urdahl, and Scott Turncoat, and Dougherty, ect most of these other bullies with there campaign’s. The ones thats wrecking our town. He does this I mean when he is not smokin crack or selling his white supremist stuff.

Totally agree with Eric drinks his own beer. As I read more comments from the others, some of you have gone way off the subject matter. Focus on the main issue.

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