COLUMBUS, Ohio, Feb. 8 (UPI) — A family in southern Ohio has asked a federal court to order the local school board to remove a portrait of Jesus from a public middle school.
The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio and the Freedom from Religion Foundation filed a lawsuit Thursday in U.S. District Court in Columbus on behalf of an unidentified student in Jackson and his parents, The Columbus Dispatch reported.
The Jackson Board of Education rejected a recent request to remove the painting, which has hung in the Jackson Middle School for almost 70 years.
“The school system was warned weeks ago that this religious display is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and must be removed,” said James Hardiman, the ACLU’s legal director. “They have chosen to continue displaying the portrait, making legal action necessary.”
Superintendent Phil Howard said Liberty Foundation, a group that defends displays of religious belief, has been working with the district to determine whether the picture can remain. He said he was “shocked” by the filing of the lawsuit.
About 300 people attended the board meeting where the painting was discussed, with most of them opposed to removing it.
Copyright 2013 United Press International, Inc. (UPI).
I love all these historic pictures of Jesus I see everywhere from Y’s to public buildings to churches and I’ve always been a good judge character by visuals and this man I see in all the pictures is a peace loving compassionate man that today would be akin to a long haired pot head hanging out at hanging man in the desert taking bong hits. The man in those pictures is not what they’ve become.
I read that the school board voted to leave the picture up. That should be interesting.
As usual, that’s not quite right. They voted to fight the lawsuit that has already been filed. They don’t have the authority to override the U.S. Constitution.
There’s your little government lesson for the day, LVS.
@sick-that’s not the way it read in the paper today. You can read can’t you? I didn’t write it I just read it. I don’t need a lesson in government from you lefty. All you could teach me would be communism.
LVS I’m pretty sure that sickastupd could teach you a lot about reading comprehension as you have proved time and time again that you need help with that.
Watch out LVS, looks like they are ganging up on you. Doesn’t matter how right you are, attack attack.
@maybe-not a problem. People like them deserve each other. Possibly they are married. She is to foul tempered and has permanent P.M.S. and he is probably either a girl or wants to be. Possibly he is still in the closet. That is what I get from reading his childish, sissy post. Liberals need each other as decent taxpaying people don’t want anything to do with them. Ignore them and they will go away and play with each other.
Seriously, I have wondered if they were husband and wife.
Yep, there’s the standard LVS reply when he has nothing. “They must be gay” “They must be crazy” “They must have something wrong with them” “They have bad tempers”.
Here’s the deal, you two chumps. You get owned on here every single day because you’re uninformed, uneducated and unintelligent.
I would suggest taking some online classes to broaden your knowledge and thereby enabling you to converse intelligently with others, but I’d be wasting my energy. You guys are happy to be reactionary morons, and I am happy to point it out.
Carry on.
Oh, that reminds me. Are you two guys married? I’ve often wondered. And since same sex marriage is legal in Iowa, I just wondered if you’d tied the knot.
@STUPID-Aw, did we make you mad? You really need to change your retoric and do something innovative. The first thing you should do to change your attack mode is to dump that Happy Gay. He does nothing but try to bring you down to his infantile, childish level. You are better than that. Of course Anymouthy doesn’t count at all, just another turd in the toilet bowl. You are better than this, you just have to try harder. Enough of the old Blah, blah, blah.
LVS I will pray for you tonight. I will pray that you will find happiness in your life, to gain some wisedom, to form some common sense, and to learn how to be civilized. The last three would require that you have some sort of intelligence so they probably won’t happen, but you are in luck…I know an idiot who has a happy life so there is some hope for you.
Me wants sum wisedum too.
Stupid, usually a hard core republican won’t marry a hard core democrat, people usually want someone that they can agrre with. Now I know that you are a woman and I am assuming that happyguy is a guy so when I said I often wondered if you and happy were married I didn’t mean it as an insult, I was serious when I said it, I was just curious. Not that it bothers me because it doesn’t but that remark about me and LVS being married was just mean.
@happy Gay-there you go again. The same old blah, blah, blah. It is way beyond your ability to come up with anything original.
@maybe-not to worry. I have been married to the same wonderful woman for 51 years now. Happy Gay and Stupid are just trying to come up with something that will embarrass us. Stupid is better than that and seems to have some type of residual intelligence. Happy Gay is just what he is. Nothing worth worrying about. A loser for sure.
You know what, Maybe, I do apologize to you. If you were asking a genuine question, I will gladly give you a genuine answer.
No, I am not married to Happy Guy. In fact, I have no idea who he is, and he doesn’t know me.
Unfortunately, when you get caught up with LVS, this is what happens. LVS is one of the most uncivil, unpleasant posters I’ve ever had the misfortune of blogging with. You and I disagree on most things, but I appreciate genuine thoughts, even those I don’t agree with.
I do not appreciate, and will not respect, the kind of hateful ignorance shown consistently by LVS. He doesn’t just disagree, he has to call people names and attempt to insult them by calling them gay, or prissy.
In the first place, I don’t know why that’s an insult, any more than why having PMS is an insult. It points to the backward ugly thinking that permeates LVS’s brain.
It’s a far greater sin to be shown to be an ignorant hateful person, and LVS has exposed his ugly heart on this site for all to see.
@SICK-that a girl Sick-you just keep on trying to come up with something that will bother me. You can do it after all you libs can do anything except make get off welfare. Stay away from that Happy Gay and you will come up with something new and original eventually. Just keep trying as I need the laugh. Now don’t get to angry r you will have a stroke. Do you see how much fun this is. Meanwhile I’ll just put up with the same old Blah, blah, blah from you too.
LVS, I have a question for you. Why do you hate gays? What have they ever done to you? And who do you hate most, gays or liberals? I’ve been wondering about this.
@maybe-be careful. You have been here before. First she comes across like she wants to be your buddy and be reasonable, then when you say something she disagrees with the claws come out and she stabs you in the back. She is a master at that which is probably the only thing she is good at. She talks about calling names and all you have to do is look at her post to see the truth. I have never attacked her or the Happy Gay until they came at me first and now I am tired of putting up with it. She will turn on you in a heart beat. It is in their nature. They just don’t know how to come up with anything original. Just more blah, blah, blah.
@my opinion-I don’t hate gays at all. I have some friends that are gay and a few relatives that are as well. I even have friend that are liberals and I am somewhat liberal on some subjects myself. I hate stupidity most of all and these tow people finally pushed me to the point I am not taking their crap anymore. I really believe in gun rights as called for in the constitution and believe that what the libs are trying to do is get all guns registered. That is the first step to confiscation. I do not think you have ever seen a post of mine that says anything bad about gays. Dangerous libs on the other hand are a threat to my country. And, I will fight back on anyone who attacks me first.
LVS, then why do you call happyguy “Happy Gay”? Please think about this before you answer.
@justmyopinion: All you have to do is read his posts. He hates gays people and women. It’s not “liberals” that bother him. He’s an old passive aggressive racist misogynist. He’s not very smart, either, but you knew that 😉
@SICKO-nothing could be further from the truth. I do not hate gay, women or people. I really don’t hate anyone. You included. I do feel sorry for you as it must be a terrible thing to have to go through life with a miserable attitude like yours. They have medications that could probably help you. You just keep trying. I have faith in you even if you have none yourself. You can cure the old hate filled blah, blah, blah if you try.
@ stupid, thank you for answering my question. As for LVS I know how she has been in the past so I expect more in the future BUT I am the type of person that if I don’t agree with you I will let you know. If I find something online that is very interesting I will do as much research as I can before sharing it but if I am having problems getting all the information I will share it hoping that someone else can find more information. Unfortunatly happyguy takes that as me spreading complete lies when my only reasoning is that maybe someone else can find out more information than I can. I have friends that are as hard core left as they come and we get along great, we just disagree alot. I would have no problem meeting stupid and happyguy in person to have our discussions anytime they want.
LVS, I would really like an answer to my question. Why do you call happyguy “Happy Gay”? I think I know, but I’d like to hear it from you.
@Opinion-I though I answered it this morning but it must have gotten cut off. It could be just a simple typo you know or it could be just to piss him off. What do you think?
LVS you are not capibale of pissing me off. I understand people like you. My father-in-law has dementia so I know how to deal with it.
@happy-now there you go again. Everytime Itry to tone it down and be decent you have to call me names or insinuate that I have a mental deficiency. Then you want to know why I fight back.
The religion and government agenda was set up so the church and states currency would not mix. Remember king George taxed the churches and the biggest donator had more to say. That’s why the seperation of church and state is in our constitution.
LVS that last post was in responce to your post in reply to your constent use of happy gay… “I though I answered it this morning but it must have gotten cut off. It could be just a simple typo you know or it could be just to piss him off. What do you think?” Like I said I know how to deal with people who have your mentallity. You have such a nack for attacking and name calling and when you are called out it is always…well they started it. For someone who I believe to be in their late 60’s or 70’s you act very childish. Try growing up and stop with all your snide juvenile remarks. I know you have some valid points to be made but with the way you act you lose your credibility before we ever get to your points.
So is it wrong for a public school bus driver to wear a cross on duty? Is it wrong to take down the crosses at Arlington Cemetery that group tried to start a court case on. This can go on and on, most catholic buildings have a picture of the last supper, all jewish guys in it. Let it go just use common sense in these cases.I do not like organized religion, but the picture of Jesus will not hurt anybody. Public buildings decor, with these rules can be decided by one or two people. Isn’t part of democracy majority rules? This last statement has nothing to do with our electoral process.
If majority says to ban guns would you put a fight or is that just part of democracy?
If the majority of the people said lets ban any type of religion, would you go along with it? It’s all the same. It is a right given us in the constitution and it doesn’t matter if 99% said lets ban them, they can’t because the constitution said it IS OUR RIGHT.
maybe a majority of the people could ban a type of religion. It would involve amending our constitution but it could be done. Our rights as outlined in the Constitution could all be taken away by amending it. I would hope this never happens but in theory it could happen.
As you probably know there have been limits placed on nearly all of our Constitutional rights. You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater, you can’t walk into a gun store and buy an automatic weapon, and ect. So it seems that along with our constitutional rights come common sense laws limiting our rights.
Happy you hit the nail right on the head. I believe back in the day our founding fathers didn’t have to worry alot about people not using common sense but now days I think it is a genetic thing were some people were born without it. You are right about the amendments but lets say guns have been ingrained so much in our society and our history that most people think of a gun like they do a screwdriver or a pliers or dare say a car. Now if you used your car daily which you probably do. Say the government decides to ban all cars, the manufacturing of cars, the manufacturing of gasoline, tires, anything that has to do with a car. Can you imagine the outcry, the protests from people, even the ones that have never had a gun, they would be protesting because a car is a huge part of their life. Now these gun owners are the same way and yes I am one of them, guns are a huge part of their life weither it is hunting or sport shooting or for protection, over 200 years of history of people and their guns is not something that you can just take away just like that even with an amendment. People take it serious and they will die to protect that right or their family.
@maybe Pursuit of happiness is a right but you bible thumpers think you can limit my rights when they don’t hurt anyone except myself. Strip clubs, gambling, marijuana ect. You people even had alcohol banned for a while. So when you stop infringing on the rights of others then maybe people will respect your rights.
Now that makes no sense whatsoever.
maybe…”Now if you used your car daily which you probably do. Say the government decides to ban all cars”. The problem with your statement, and you just can’t seem to grasp this but, no one is talking about banning all guns. Why can’t you understand that? I’m not trying to be rude or a smart a** but I don’t know how to state this more simply.
@happy, I live my life without blinders on so instead of just seeing whats in front of me I see whats going on all around me. Some polititians are calling for a complete ban and some have even submitted bills to that effect. You can say it will never happen but I am here to tell you that you are wrong and very soon they will try just that. Look at canada for example, they started out with a universal registration and now they are confisgating weapons using the registration to know who has the guns.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52pMg8qQcc
If a majority voted on a ban on guns in a political correct way, yes I would live with that . The dividing of church and state was not about religion it was about money. It’s a picture so lets take all pictures down then everybody would be happy. If its not bothering the kids leave the kids alone. Adults make matters into major conflicts. Race, sexual preferences , all differences in people become issues when you get older. My father and 16 immediate family members are teachers, and myself, see this all the time let kids be kids please. Even at the last school shooting a Dr there to help, said let’s let the children comfort each other, it worked
P. S. the only person lately that has skated around the constitution is O enema.
maybe the first link you post was not a gun ban. It is a proposal for a law that bans all assault weapons in Missouri. Not all guns. You know as well as I do that it will never happen in Missouri. They are as red as it gets. All proposalls like that do is to make it more difficult to get reasonable gun reform laws passed.
I’m not sure I have ever asked but just what would you do to help reduce the number of mass shooting that seem to happen every 6 months or so? You seem to be against everything.
maybe I started watching the youtube video you shared a link to. After about 1 minute I knew something was somewhat fishy. I googled Sun News and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_News_Network
This basically says Sun News is the Fox News of Canada. I checked it out maybe. I have yet to be convinced that they are coming for your legally own guns.
maybe
February 9, 2013 at 10:56 pm
You say that you don’t want us to shove our religion down your throat yet you try to shove your anti religion down ours. If I was to talk to you and say nothing about religion yet I am wearing a big cross around my neck you would be offended yet if you ask me to take it off I would be offended.
It’s not about “what” you practice or wear.
It’s about “where”.
I don’t pay taxes on people’s necks. But I pay taxes on a “public school.” So what hangs on the walls gives me a voice to have a vote on what does or doesn’t hang on the walls.
maybe was talking about that to me. I am telling him/her now that I would not care if or what you wear. that does not offend me. Now if you came to me, gave me a pamphlet, or tried to convert me to your beliefs. that is a totally different thing. actually my statement sounds alot like the christians going to africa or the jungle trying to convert the zulu tribes or whoever. or the people who come to your house and beg for money. Or what about the religous people that leave pamphlets setting around in your buisness without your knowledge. let me come to your house and convince you on the benifits of being an atheist. Any takers? I doubt it as we all have enough things to do rather than hash this out. I also didnt realize there were so many people that agreed with me on this subject. Anon has stated many comments much better that i would have. also just because only 3 people complained recently does not mean there is only 3 that disagree. just that only 3 had the balls to speak the truth in public. How many people dislike the MC mayor. yet how many go to the council meetings to complain. think about that.
Years ago I had some jehovah witness come to my door to talk to me and I told them that they could try to convince me that they were right and I could try to convince them that I was right but it would be a waste of our time so they said thank you and left. I know there are alot of religions out there that I feel is wrong and that mine is right but thats my opinion but I am not going to judge them. Jesus said judge and ye shall be judged so I try not to. I am not the perfect christian by far but I try. Now as for the school and picture, I have never seen a picture of Jesus in a public school but I have in a christian school. I have read the constitution but the language for me is hard to understand so I have to admit that alot of it I don’t understand. Some have said that having the picture there is unconstitutional, I don’t understand that. I do know that the way they translate separation of church and state isn’t the way I understand the constitution to say but I could be wrong.
It’s a shame the “musselims” don’t allow depictions of Mohammed and Allah so they could be plastered on the buses, too.
Unbelievable! So the constitution is only applicable when it agrees with your beliefs? What are you people smoking? That document protects everybody, not just a few!
If you want proof that the constitution demands the separation of church and state, look no further than the words of James Madison, the principle author of the Bill of Rights, who inserted the word “national” into the first amendment for this very reason – to make sure that it applied to every aspect of this nation – including schools.
I’m sorry if you don’t like it, but you aren’t the only ones in this country, and you’re just going to have to get over it.
Completely agree with you on this one SAS. And to the other poster, wearing a cross is not the same as a picture of a religious figure on government property, ie., a school bus.
Thanks, Katie! We don’t always agree, but the fact that we’re both women makes us righter by default. LOL!
@stupid, are you my aunt?
For all you people that feel the way about God not being real please do not stand next to me on judgement day because I don’t want God to make his first mistake and think I am you
So you admit that GOD makes mistakes.
Whatever….just remember you won’t smell any better than me.
Picture should go! Religion is a pesonal thing. No one religion should be forced on anyone. And all have the right to NOT believe. It’s a “public” school. Hence I pay taxes on it and have a say so too. Not just you Norweigen Lutherns. k?
I heard on the news that there were THREE people who complained about the picture. So THREE people in twenty years object and the rest of the people like it. It just seems to me that the majority should rule here. If they don’t like it, don’t look at it. It is not like the picture is hurting anything. God what a bunch of prissy, cry baby idiots.
Wow, LVS. It’s unconstitutional to display that picture. And you’re calling the citizens who are demanding their constitutional rights be protected “prissy cry babies”? Really?
@Sicka-My comment was aimed at everyone not just the ones that complained. I can not think of more of a non-issue than this. Constitution be damned, it is just dumb to get all worked up over this. There are lots of things in this world that need attention and to me, this is at the bottom of the list. Again, if you don’t like it don’t look at it. How many times do you think they would see it in a day anyhow?
OK, LVS. Let’s go ahead and stomp on my rights by displaying that picture, and I’ll stomp on yours by taking away all the guns. After all, how many times in one day do you look at your guns?
I think that’s a fair trade – constitutional right for constitutional right. Deal?
@sicka-now don’t get all worked up. I said, to me it is a non-issue. I really do NOT care one way or the other if the picture is there or not. I am not overly religious at all. So, if it makes you happy, take it down. However, your comment about God not being in our government is just wrong. Listen to the pledge of allegiance, our National Anthem or look at our dollar bill and then tell me god was not intended to be in our government. It is all through almost all documents and even Obama was sworn in on the bible. Do I agree with it? I am not sure, but it was intended to be there. Different stroke for different folks and different times.
Now, now, LVS. A classic symptom of the under educated, easily manipulated person being caught in an unwinnable discussion is by attempting to marginalize your opponent.
So if we could get back to the issue, your silly examples of the pledge of allegiance, blah, blah, blah have NOTHING to do with this issue.
God isn’t the point, here, little fella. The constitution is. And it’s unconstitutional to display religious objects in state buildings.
I was talking about constitutional rights. Rights.
So, what’s your answer? Want to trade rights? I’ll take your guns, you hang up pictures. Deal?
@sicka-you are just trying to start a argument when I told you it was a non-issue with me. I don’t care if they hang the picture or take it down. As far as it being against the constitution I think that would depend on your understanding. Now if someone should want to take this Barney Fiefs guns they can have them one bullet at a time. If you want to try Anon I will privately give you my address. I really hate it when those trolls break into a conversation and try to be a smart A##.
Yeah, right, LVS. Now suddenly it’s a “non-issue” and I’m trying to start an argument.
Never mind the fact that YOU are the one who came out of the gate calling people who expected their constitutional rights to be upheld “prissy, crybaby idiots”.
Never mind the fact that you say it’s no big deal, in fact it’s a “non-issue” when it’s somebody else’s rights.
And never mind the fact that when you’re proven flat wrong in black and white, you deflect, insult and attempt to back pedal. At least be a big boy and admit that I’m right. Rights are rights, no matter the “non-issue”.
@sick-you just never give up do you. I was trying to be reasonable but you seem to feel you must keep on attacking. So, here it is You are RIGHT. Happy now.
@stupid. According to the Supreme Court, the First Amendment requires that public school students never be given the impression that their school officially sanctions religion in general or prefers a specific faith in particular. I have read the first amendment front to back and back to front and I never saw what the supreme court saw but they did. The bill of rights and all the amendments were originally written for congress, state and local governments had to come up with their own laws under the free exercise clause. The Court has ruled against some overtly religious displays at courthouses, state funding supplementing teacher salaries at religious schools, and some overly religious holiday decorations on public land. In the past, the Supreme Court has permitted religious invocations to open legislative session, government funding of bussing and textbooks for private religious schools, and efforts by school districts to arrange schedules to accommodate students’ extra-curricular religious education programs.
LVS, I think thats all she has is to be right. As long as she does her research and can show me that she is right I have no problem admitting it, but if I think I am right and can proove it she better do alot more research to proove me wrong.
Maybe wrote
“According to the Supreme Court, the First Amendment requires that public school students never be given the impression that their school officially sanctions religion in general or prefers a specific faith in particular”.
Key words here are “never be given the impression”. this would include a picture, and therefore be in violation. the fact that you dont like what the supreme court decided is nobodys problem but your own. Its the supreme court!!!
You also used the word “originally” in reference to the bill of rights and all its amendments. well guess what. people and laws have evolved from a much simpler time. this is natural. you have heard of evolution havnt you? that is what this athiest believes in.
also to LVS… you actually did start the discussion with sicka as I see it. nuf said
I never give up, LVS? Why should I? Why should your particular brand of vitriol be allowed to pass as acceptable discourse?
No, I never give up. Especially when it comes to constitutional rights. And Maybe, I am standing on solid ground here. Some states and local governments have bent the law to accommodate their particular citizens, but if anybody ever pushed it – like these people did in Ohio – they would found out in a hurry that it’s unconstitutional.
The mere fact that LVS has his ruffled underpants in a knot because this is not his favorite kind of “right” should tell you why we MUST have a Supreme Court of the United States to interpret the US Constitution.
Too many people have too many different ideas on which right is the “right” right.
Well, there is no difference. Rights are rights. They’re all equal.
And no, I don’t “have” to be right. But I do not tolerate ignorance well.
@sick-not very gracious in your victory either. There are some people in this world that are just mean spirited and I think you may be one. You don’t want to discuss you just want to make everything into a personal vendetta. You just can’t get around the personal attacks. Every time I think you have some intelligence you seem to go out of your way to prove me wrong.
Hasn’t anything I’ve said sunk in? It’s not about YOU! It’s not about ME!
It’s about the irony of being so fierce about constitutional rights only when it suits your particular viewpoint!
It’s not personal, and it’s not a vendetta. And most importantly, I didn’t WIN anything!
I am trying everything I can think of to get people like you open your eyes and say “Oh, yeah. I guess in order to covet my rights I have to accept that others have theirs”! Or even “I never thought of it that way”. But no. It’s attack, deflect and insult.
You’re the one who starts right off with the insults, LVS. You. You’re the one who calls people names – YOU.
Attempting to throw it back on me tells me so much about you. You do not want to think, to discuss. You want to play me vs. them. It’s this kind of mindset that has turned our country into a minefield.
You are part of the problem.
@sick-I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think of myself as very tolerant of other people’s RIGHTS. I could easily tell you some things that would make you see that but if I did I would have to give away my identity which I am not going to do. I will say that I am not very religious but my wife is and I respect that as it is very important to her. I am not in the least against racial equality even though I have been accused of it and I am a fierce defender of every ones right to live. I am a conservative but with somewhat liberal views when it comes to working people. And, I will stand and fight for my views. I told you the subject we were discussing was not important to me and it isn’t. I do not care if they hang the picture or take it down. It has to do with my live and let live policy. I didn’t call you any names in my post and was making a general statement. I would call everyone cry babies when they can’t work out their differences. I you look at my original post I was not referring to you at all and you jumped in, so how do you think I was calling you names?
@sick-now as you can see, I consider people with attitudes like yours the problem. You act like you have a headache all the time.
I realize that “headache” comment is your subtle way of attempting to degrade me yet again, so I’ll just say this – it’s not cute, it’s not funny, and it doesn’t work.
Having said that, you were, as usual, the first to try and have an argument. You said “now don’t get all worked up” – yet another of your trademark sarcastic asides.
You may fancy yourself quite open minded, but you, sir, are a textbook angry, passive-aggressive misogynist, whether you want to admit it or not. You would love to think I have a vendetta, that I am hysterical, that I am just ever so “mean”, but the fact is, you don’t like me because I can see right through you.
I thought you might be a person who, although I disagree politically, might be worth debating intellectually. You are not. I’m out.
@50miles, I posted what I did because in a round about way, not the constitution or the bill of rights but the free excercise clause which was added to the first amendment later, stupid was right. If I was trying to start an argument I would have left that out but I didn’t. I was telling her that she was right but you turned my words around to sound like I was arguing with her. Sounds like my ex brother in law, always looking for a good fight.
@stupid, passive-aggressive misogynist? What is that?
@sick-the headache comment meant you seem angry all the time. Nothing else so please do not try to put words in my mouth. I can do that all by myself. Why do you think I don’t like you. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think you have a fine mind when you use it for positive things instead of attacks. I am not the only one who sees that. You seem to attack anyone or anything who does not see it your way. It is to bad because I have learned some things from reading your post but you seem to be such a angry person.
that’s what I think gun toting Barney Fife’s are. cry baby sissies.
And are you saying constitutional rights should be only the “majority” who want them? And screw those who get outvoted on a “constitutional right”? wow. that’s so redneck.
Goodby Jesus. Even though you were not real, it’s been real. Time for people to relize Jesus is as real as Santa claws. NO RELLIGIUS DISPLAYS.
YOU WILL BURN FOR THAT REMARK. IDIOT.
Grandma…. you are a two faced hypocrite. its people like you, that dont practice what you preach, that gives religious people a bad name. is that what the bible teaches you christians? to badmouth people who dont believe the same as you? do you speak for all religious people? If nobody corrects grandma then I guess im right in thinking that all bible thumping so called christians hate and badmouth people who have different beliefs than yourself. shame on you christians. we atheists only want to live our lives in peace, without having shit shoved down our throuts. like your comment. hows that Connor?
You say that you don’t want us to shove our religion down your throat yet you try to shove your anti religion down ours. If I was to talk to you and say nothing about religion yet I am wearing a big cross around my neck you would be offended yet if you ask me to take it off I would be offended. It all comes down to being an adult. If you wear a satanic symbol around your neck I would be adult enough to not say anything. I am a christian and I will worship as I want and if you try to stop me I will just continue to worship. I have a hard time understanding how anybody can look around at this world and not say there is a God.
praise satin, praise ala, praise my cow, praise nothing…..I also have the right to believe in what I want. or to just say it to make my point. would you really like it if people would say these sayings all the time?. wouldnt you get tired of hearing it? some one on here would end up saying “keep it to yourself”. so IM going to say it first……”keep it to yourself” in your own house. And to further squash any comeback. by your thinking, it would be ok for a jewish person to come into a christian reform church or a methodist church and spout out his faith?? think about that for a while. this comming from an athiest that doesnt want your religion shoved down my throut.
People wonder why our country is going the direction it is. Just had a conversion with someone just yesterday that said he is not a very religious man but, since they have taken God out of almost everything our country has went the wrong direction. This whole article makes me sad. I pray with my Grand kids when I take them to school that God will keep them safe. Our they going to take that away from me because I am doing it on school grounds? They can tell me I can’t but it won’t stop me!! It’s time people that believe in Jesus Christ and prayer start standing up and making our voices heard.
So if god can fix everything why is it that there were 5 school shootings in 2012 and 115 shootings in a church… certainly you can’t argue that churches took god out of their church!
You can pray to yourself anytime and anywhere. You can wear crosses or tattoo it on your face for all I care. Why is it that we have to listen to you. I respect your right to religion and that means all religions. The KKK claims to be a christian organization and I don’t want to hear their beliefs just like Satanist’s, Hindu’s, Muslim’s, Wicca or any other views pushed on me. I have no problem learning about different cultures and beliefs just let me ask to hear it. Don’t force me to look at it everyday when I get on a public bus. If I believe that looking at naked pictures should be accepted by everyone will you be offended when I put them where you have to look at them daily.
Good grief! You sound like those gun nuts! NOBODY is saying you can’t pray. What they’re saying is YOU don’t have the right to expect EVERYBODY to worship YOUR God. And to FORCE or SHAME others into praying outloud with you. PRAYER is a personal thing. People like you are the problem. Better have another cup of tea. Maybe your common sense will return.
These athiest people and the sheeple that agree with them are the problem with America. The 1st amendment wasn’t meant for the separation of church and state. It was to protect the rights of the people to practice whatever religion they want to and restricts the federal government from setting up a national religion. There’s no such thing in the Constitution about separation, at all. It was something made up and then the ACLU got a case to go to the Supreme Court to make this law. Reynolds v. United States, Everson v. Board of Education, etc. It’s a result of Judicial legislation.
Amazing how you know exactly what people thought about the constitution 200 years ago. I would think that the founding fathers themselves had different view points on how each of the amendments would be enforced in everyday life. Now please tell us how we would should all interpret the bible.
The First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
Which means our government will not recognize only one religion to be the only religion practiced by all citzens. Meaning our government and a church CANNOT force their beliefs on everyone.
Which means if you hang one picture of a religious figure in a public (paid for by ALL taxpayers) establishment; you HAVE to allow ALL to hang a pic.
So NONE are hung.
It means you are allowed the freedom to practice YOUR religion in YOUR church.
But NOT hold sermons on public grounds.
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Tell em to go to hell. I’m tired of this kind of crap going on in the USA. It’s no wonder our country is in the shape its in, because of stupid crap like this.
You really need to read and study the Constitution. The Bible does NOT rule our nation. Thosen objecting to the picture pay taxes to the school too which gives them rights to say no picture. People fighting for Constitutional rights is not crap. If you think that then “gun rights” must be crap to you too.