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gunWASHINGTON, Jan. 30 (UPI) — Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords told a Senate panel Wednesday “the time is now” to act on gun violence because “too many children are dying.”

But Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president and chief executive officer of the National Rifle Association, told the Senate Judiciary Committee, “Law-abiding gun owners will not accept responsibility” for the massacres that plague the United States.

The hearing was prompted by the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., Dec. 14 in which 20 schoolchildren and six adults were killed by a gunman who used his mother’s legally registered weapons, including an assault rifle with high-capacity magazine.

LaPierre said schools need to be made more secure.

“It’s time to throw an immediate blanket of security around our children,” said LaPierre, who had to endure sometimes testy Democratic questioning during the hearing.

Giffords was the target of multiple death threats after voting for healthcare reform in the House. She was seriously wounded Jan. 8, 2011, at a public event outside a supermarket near Tucson when a gunman shot her in the head, killed six others including a federal judge and a child, and wounded 13. She resigned her congressional seat last year to concentrate on her recovery.

The gunman, now serving multiple life terms, did not appear to have political connections.

The judiciary committee is considering curbs on assault weapons, limiting magazine size and expanding background checks for gun sales.

In a halting voice that grew firm when she was making her main points, Giffords, D-Ariz., told the panel, “This is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for Democrats and Republicans. Speaking is difficult. But I need to say something important.

“Too many children are dying,” she said, reading from a short statement. “Too many children. We must do something. It will be hard but the time is now. You must act. Be bold, be courageous, Americans are counting on you.”

Giffords’ husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, told the panel, “Gabby’s gift for speech is a distant memory, she struggles to walk and she is partially blind.”

But he said, “We aren’t here as victims, but as fellow Americans. … We’re both gun owners and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it seriously. … We are two reasonable Americans who have said enough is enough.”

Kelly, a retired Navy captain, said the Tucson gunman emptied a 33-round magazine, and a 9-year-old girl was killed with the 13th round. He said the girl, Christina Taylor Green, would be alive today if the Jared Loughner’s magazine was limited to 10 rounds or less.

Loughner never was reported to mental authorities and Arizona had data on more than 130,000 of the mentally ill never added into the background check system.

Kelly recommended several things: fixing background checks, closing the gun show loophole, removing the restrictions on federal research of gun violence and having “a conversation about the lethality of firearms we permit to be sold in this country.”

LaPierre told the committee he was representing 4.5 million NRA members and the millions more who support gun rights.

“We join the nation in sorrow over the tragedy that occurred in Newtown, Conn.,” he said. “We need to enforce the thousands of gun laws that are already on the books. … Unfortunately we have seen a collapse of the prosecution of federal gun laws” during the Obama administration.

“Proposing more gun laws while failing to enforce the ones we already have is not a serious solution,” LaPierre said.

The NRA executive said government should also reform mental health laws, but the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 “had no impact on preventing crime.” He said a U.S. Justice Department study did not find it effective.

Under questioning, he refused to endorse background checks in gun deals between private sellers and collectors.

The atmosphere became testy as Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., questioned LaPierre.

Durbin said NRA members in his state come up to him and say, “Senator you just don’t get the Second Amendment … We need the firepower and the ability to protect ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors.”

LaPierre refused to address those comments, instead saying people all over the country fear “being abandoned by their government” during weather disasters and riots.

A member of the committee, Sen. Lindsey Graham, said he had an assault rifle at home, and cited the case of a Georgia woman who fired six rounds from a pistol at a violent intruder. Hit five times, the intruder was “still able to get up and drive away. … I think the best way to interrupt a shooter … is not to deny that woman” a 15-round magazine, he said.

“There can be a situation where a mother runs out of bullets because of something we do here,” Graham warned.

James Johnson, chief of police for Baltimore County, Md., told the panel: “Like assault weapons, high capacity magazines are not used by hunters. They do not belong in our homes.” He said the questions put to Durbin by NRA members were “scary, creepy and just not based on logic.”

Gayle Trotter of the Independent Women’s Forum said, “Guns make women safer.” She said if Congress bans assault weapons, “You are putting women at a great disadvantage.”

There were signs enacting new gun restrictions will be difficult. Before the testimony began, the committee’s ranking member, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said Congress should not use the Newtown school massacre as an excuse to enact new gun laws.

He said President Obama’s actions to restrict guns was rightly generating fear of a “tyrannical federal government.”

“Banning guns based on their appearance doesn’t make sense,” Grassley said “I also question bans on guns with large-magazine capacities.”

Copyright 2013 United Press International, Inc. (UPI).

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If you wish to question the intentions of Senator Feinstein, consider this:

The AR-15 is to be banned under her AWB, the Mini-14 will remain legal.

AR-15: .223 caliber, semi-automatic, accepts detachable magazines.

Mini-14: .223 caliber, semi-automatic, accepts detachable magazines.

What makes the Ar-15 so much more dangerous that it needs to be banned?

Why didn’t we get more coverage on the off duty police woman who saved lives in San Antonio movie theater with her gun, knowledge and bravery . Liberal press and government could have something to do with it.

The media is controlled by both parties.

About 9 to 1 in favor of the liberal view. Didn’t liberal used to mean live and let live, not big brother and big sis deciding what they want me to learn and how I should live.

I remember hearing a news report while this was going down. A police officer while searching the school grounds, saw an AR15 in the back seat of a car in the parking lot. That car turned out to belong to the Lanza’s. Since this happened, I have heard and read several reports about the incident. Alot of statements are contradictory, which makes me wonder if this is a government plot to help sway the public on gun control. I believe that the government lies to us, and tells us things just to make us feel good, so we’ll think they’er doing their job. The weapons ban overhaul isn’t going so good right now, so I’m waiting for another government sponsored mass shooting.

Oh Allen, you have fallen for the big lie. Do a little more research, google Sandy Hook shooting hoax and look for the articles that say the conspiracy is a crock. It will give you extremely good information on why this crap exists. It is not a government conspiracy.

@bodacious, that video link I posted said alot but it also showed quite a few live videos that make you question everything the government is telling us. I know you want to believe every word that comes out of our masters mouth. When somebody is caught in a lie and knows it yet continues to lie, that person I can’t trust anymore. When I read an article that says something other than what we have been told I try to find another article that says the same thing. If I do find another article then there might be something to it.

bodacious, I looked up the sandy hook hoax, but which one should I read, that negates my thoughts.

@allen how about any of these:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzMtYWvvnQ4

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/

Any of the 3 provides evidence that disputes what the hoaxers argue. The youtube video goes through the 3 most common examples delivered by the hoaxers – the 2nd gunman, the man in the woods, and the supposedly unaffected parents. The Salon article gives expert testimony about the actions of people subjected to extreme grief.

@happyguy – I realize I might be wasting my time but I have to try to educate some who still have minds left.

@Allen and @bojangles – I am not so dense that I believe the government never lies to us. I also know that the police aren’t always truthful and our business leaders deceive us daily. But, as far as conspiracies are concerned, you have to be very intelligent to put one over that would encompass all the elements involved in the Sandy Hook tragedy.

There is NO COVERUP. There is NO CONSPIRACY. The feds AREN’T COMING FOR YOUR GUNS. The kids were killed by the bushmaster 223. How can you people be so foolish and gullible.

bodacious we are wasting our time and energy when we even respond to something as absurd, foolish, flaky, illogical, and insane as this.

I agree with you Allen. The government does lie and cover things up the promote their own agendas. People don’t believe it because they sre stupid enough to think, gee, the government would never do that to their own people, they wouldn’t lie to us, or they’re here to help us. The government is able to do whatever they want, and they will try their damndest to get you to believe what they want you to believe. They have been doing it since day 1.

You think that is strange read this article. Brings up more questions, like why did Arlington, Ohio School District post an article named “Talking with your child about the Sandy Hook Tragedy” on Dec 10 2012.

http://newtomorrow.us/ctshooting.html

Those in favor of bans on the Bushmaster AR15 and the like use the Sandy Hook tragedy as their rallying cry, read the Globe article on 1/27 by Jesse Washington stating it was the weapon the killer used, this article stating the same, and Prez Obama also using it in his Inaugural Speech to promote the ban on these rifles. However as reported on 12/15 on the NBC TODAY SHOW..the killer only used HANDGUNS(HE HAD 4) and he left the AR15 RIFLE he brought in the car and it never was taken into the school. This proof came from the law enforcement people that initially investigated the shooting. Dems continue to fabricate this to promote their agenda to ban these guns…it should be amazing that the Globe and most other media sources dont call them out on this ..but maybe not so suprising as most media leans left on most topics

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