CHICAGO, Feb. 1 (UPI) — The body of a woman was found inside a bullet-riddled van on the ramp of a Chicago expressway Friday morning while a passenger was not injured, officials said.
Police found the body while responding to a report of an automobile crash, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
The woman was pronounced dead at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, the Illinois State Police said. A second woman in the van was not injured.
Police said the 32-year-old woman was fatally shot when a van pulled alongside her vehicle and fired 10 to 14 shots, the Chicago Tribune reported.
One round hit the woman, who was driving.
Police said the shooting may have been drug-related. The van was discovered about 4:20 a.m.
Copyright 2013 United Press International, Inc. (UPI).
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Judgeing by the amount of comments here, there are a lot of people with a whole lot of free time on their hands.
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You might just be alittle biased there Matt, I do agee with you though.
“My grandson owns a couple of shotguns. He is not required to have any liability insurance that covers him or his actions. Of the gun owners I know none have specific insurance covering the use of their guns. If you are a home owner your house insurance may cover some of this. If you are a renter I doubt that your renters insurance would cover it.”
If i came over and beat your mailbox to death with a 6 iron, I would be liable for the damages; just as I would if i had shot your mailbox I don’t have insurance on the 6 iron. What you are worried about is a) collecting a large amounjt of money just because they used a firearm and b) another cost to help prevent ownership of firearms.
“The guns that would be included in the ban, that people have legally now, will over time wear out, get turned in, ect.”
Again just away to remove “scary” “assault weapons” from ownership. Which has been factually proven to do nothing about gun violence.
LVS February 2, 2013 at 1:07 pm
@Happy Guy-Gee, you need to give it a rest. You have to be running out of arguments by now.
In another topic you stated people have “freedom of speech. And that it’s in the Constitution”. Are you saying that only pertains to your freedom? Hah!
My Voice February 2, 2013 at 8:59 am
You can ban anything you want but if you don’t enforce the law it isn’t worth a pile of dog poo. In the US a person selling drugs can get off with a cheaper fine than someone not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Does this make sense? Or check this out. I read all the time about deferred sentences and fines for criminals caught selling A LOT of dope. They get probation most of the time for the 1st offense and sometimes even the 2nd offense. Get pulled over not wearing your seatbelt…you will pay a heafty fine.
I wonder where the problem lies?
Kinda like drunk driving laws. Slaps on the wrist for OWI’s all the time. Until some innocent person is killed by that same or other drunk who disregards others rights.
Or the pedophile who keeps raping children because they get a slap on the wrist.
But smoke a joint and you do 10 yrs.
What’s wrong & what’s the problem?
The answer is Conservatives demanding “feel good laws” Re: pot. But think nothing of driving drunk or allowing a pedophile priest to go free and LIES to save his azz.
Any more questions?
You state that the conservatives are trying to push “feel good laws”‘ isn’t it the democrats that are trying to push gun control which is the biggest FEEL GOOD law there is? Another point, as a business owner I know quite a bit about obamacare and you would be suprised what is in there but one day you will find out.
There are consevatives who don’t like and fear guns. Many are women. They too are pshing for gun control of ASSAULT WEAPONS. NOT guns in general as is the propaganda fear mongering emails and word of mouth being spread.
Conservatives such as Nancy T don’t have a clue as to how addiction begins or ends. They just think “drugs are evil just say no.”
I’ve work in healthcare. I understand a lot more of how the plan pertains to healthcare. TPartyers make crap up and spreads unwarrented fear.
You might know more of the financial aspect than me. But is that any reason to say the entire thing is bad.
I’m retired and set for life so I don’t have anything to worry about. Doesn’t mean I don’t care about others. I just don’t like the false hype.
You say false hype and they are all lying but what if, and I know this is a stretch but what if they are not lying. I don’t trust anybody in government, they all have their own agenda and will do or say anything to meet that agenda. Who is to say that they are lying to you? You said in a different post here about assault weapons were banned before but nobody was screaming about them taking our weapons away. It’s like this, clinton was a crook, he was fooling around with numbers of other women. Some of the taxes that he pushed through actually worked but some of it had to do with reganomics. I don’t think deep down clinton was against our country but every fiber of my being tells me that obama’s only agenda is to bring down our country. You can tell me he is a great man till you are blue in the face( fish) but everything that I see and hear coming from his mouth he is a traitor to our country and will not be satisfied till he brings us down. In 4 years IF he is still there and we are still a country I will admit to you publicly that I was wrong but untill that day, it’s like the roman empire was brought down from inside the government. History has always repeated itself, if you learn from history you can stop the cycle but if you don’t learn from it, IT WILL repeat itself.
I don’t care if someone owns an assault weapon or not. I’m just sick of hearing “OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE OUR GUNS! We got a right to guns it says so in the Constitution. blah blah blah blah” STFU! Nobody is trying to keep citizens from owing guns t protect themselves. That’s ALL you have a RIGHT to. The “type” is up to our government to decide what they want in the hands of Joe Blow. Don’t like it? You’re free to leave America. We don’t need you.
nuff said.
@Anonymous, so you say that if I don’t like the fact that ” The “type” is up to our government to decide what they want in the hands of Joe Blow. Don’t like it? You’re free to leave America”. That is called FREEDOM to choose. The 2nd amendment is all about protecting one self from a tyranical government not protection from criminals (although they maybe one and the same) or about hunting. The 2nd amendment states that the weapon we choose should be comparable to what the military uses because when called upon to serve, the ammo or other parts should be able to be used by us too. I know I posted this before but watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8&feature=youtu.be
Assault weapons have been banned before. Where was the screaming then about how the government is taking guns away? You’re wrong about it meaning to keep our government from taking over. They make laws all the time. Repeat….Constitution says right to bear arms. Does NOT specify type. Ever wonder why you can’t strap an assault weapon on and parade around? Government says you can’t! They mostly want to have them registered. If you’re honest you shouldn’t mind.
And tyranny won’t happen by our government. They’re too outnumbered. Try using common sense. And this isn’t 1776. It’s 2013.
maybe February 2, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Just wait till obamacare fully kicks in, there will be a whole lot more deaths.
How would you know? I doubt you can even comprehend most of it. That’s why your kind listens to the lieing TPartyers. They can’t comprehend it either.
That’s why they make up stuff about it.
We could ban Chicago !!!
And Kansas City! They had 4-5 gun deaths in less than 4 days last wk.. And at least 100 in 2012. It’s a mentality issue. Thankfully I don’t live in any of those places. But MC is gaining…
The story thickens. A passenger in the vehicle was not injured.
Victem was a documented gang member and a felon.
food 4 thought, Doctors have killed more peopls in the last 10 years then guns have…….Jim
doctors have saved 1000’s of times more people than guns have!!
Just wait till obamacare fully kicks in, there will be a whole lot more deaths.
@Happy Guy-Gee, you need to give it a rest. You have to be running out of arguments by now.
That is scary.
There are places offering $1500 rewards for turning in names of felons who have assault-style guns and $1000 for all other guns. This program is working well where it is offered. They fund it from confiscated cars, money, homes, etc.
Good funding idea. About time crooks started paying for busting their own kind. Beats me having to pay for a worthless drug prevention plan.
If you run with druggers you take the chance of getting killed or hurt at any given time. Dealing in drug is still illegal and you should be responsible for your own actions. To bad she was killed but she had to know it could happen.
But, how can this sort of thing happen? They have some of the strictest gun control laws anywhere and yet people still are getting shot. If police think this may be drug related, maybe they should make drugs ilegal or vans since she was in a van.
Archie…I think some common sense here would help you answer your question!! Could it possible be because those strict gun laws only apply to the City of Chicago? Drive 20 miles in any direction from the center of the city and you will be able to buy your much needed assualt weapon or any other gun that is legal to buy. Surely you can come up with something better than what you posted.
Hey, nice to see you are up and around already this morning. We knew you’d bite on the comment I made. Since you seem to be the resident genius on all things posted, where did the article or my post say anything about an assault weapon? Surely you can agree that you are jumping to conclusions…..again. Have a nice day, OK?
“Could it possible be because those strict gun laws only apply to the City of Chicago? Drive 20 miles in any direction from the center of the city and you will be able to buy your much needed assualt weapon or any other gun that is legal to buy.”
And it is currently illegal to possess heroine, cocanine and meth in the whole United States (and much of the world) and yet there is a thriving market for them. So you argue ment hold no water.
Here’s how DUMB your mentality is…
You argue driving 20 miles out of Chicago and a criminal or soon to be can get his hands on a gun. Hmm, that makes sense. Here’s what doesn’t make sense in your logic.
#1 The criminal is STILL bringing the gun into a BANNED AREA thus breaking the law. So, the ban there OBVIOUSLY does not work. A criminal by definition will not and DOES NOT obey the law.
#2 To jump onto your 20 miles out logic. So we ban guns everywhere in the US or even just assault weapons…don’t you think they are STILL going to get them on the black market from other countries?
Doesn’t most of the coccaine come from other countries? Hmm, it’s banned here in the US so we the smart left as so ignorant that we can’t realize that it isn’t stopping shit. BUT it makes us “feel” good.
Yes, you’ve stated your thoughts on gun control and you’ve put your “facts” out there. I’ve said it before, you have every right to your opinion but it doesn’t make it right.
You can ban anything you want but if you don’t enforce the law it isn’t worth a pile of dog poo. In the US a person selling drugs can get off with a cheaper fine than someone not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Does this make sense? Or check this out. I read all the time about deferred sentences and fines for criminals caught selling A LOT of dope. They get probation most of the time for the 1st offense and sometimes even the 2nd offense. Get pulled over not wearing your seatbelt…you will pay a heafty fine.
I wonder where the problem lies?
Ah screw it…ban every damn gun out there, it’ll even help fix global warming. Geez, I sound like a Lib!
@happyguy, I didn’t see one word in the article that says what caliber let alone what kind of weapon was used. If you say it was an assault weapon then maybe you know alittle too much about it, you didn’t just get back from chicago did you?
To those of you who say criminals will find ways around any new gun laws or regulations…just when did we start passing laws that criminals will obey? By your logic there should be no laws against murder, muggings, robbery, theft, ect.
There are some common sense solutions that will stop some and maybe a lot of senseless deaths by guns if only the NRA, pro gun lobbies, and gun lovers would start using some common sense.
“There are some common sense solutions that will stop some and maybe a lot of senseless deaths by guns if only the NRA, pro gun lobbies, and gun lovers would start using some common sense.”
By common sense you mean, of course, YOUR way of thinking. Passing a new law does nothing except promte a “good feeling” in those who will feel that they “have done something”. Banning a weapon does nothing except remove it from those citizens who are law abiding. That is a fact you need to realize. It will not reduce the violence at all.
He does seem like he is running out of arguments if his last post is in indication. I reread his last post and it made no sense whatsoever. Watch this video, it answers every good question and every not so good question and every happyguy question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8&feature=youtu.be
@maybe-very interesting vidio. I wonder what Happy Guy will say to try to discredit this one.
I watched the video a couple of nights ago and again just now. Here is a rightwing teapublican making the points the NRA are feeding him. What else can I say. I agreed with his opening about punishing criminals and making them serve more time. The rest is right wing rhetoric. Here is the thing I know an assault weapon ban is not going to stop all murders in the USA. It will be a start and it will save more lives with each year that goes by with stricter controls put on guns too. All guns should be registered just like a car. All guns bought and sold must be registered, much like we do with a car now. There needs to be stringent licencing for people to own guns, much like we do to drive a car now. The gun owner should have insurance to cover any potential damage they do with there guns. Gun shows should be stopped. The same back-ground checks in all 50 states should be completed for every gun sale. People who have in the past had a mental illness should not own guns period. People who have ever had a restraining order issued against them should have there guns confiscated. No convicted felon could own a gun. How much more do you want/ I’m getting tired.
I really don’t have a problem with backgroud checks. Convicted felons are already banned from owning a weapon. When a person gets a CCW he has to take a 15 hour class, pay a fee, the sheriff’s office does a complete background check. My suggestion would be that anybody that wants a weapon has to get a CCW. That way if he wants to buy a gun all he has to do is show his CCW, the gun store checks on the legallity of the permit, if it is legal, then sell them a gun. I don’t know how anybody of any level of intelligence can sit there and tell me that with all of the hundreds of laws already on the books about guns, how putting more laws there will make any difference. Plus it seems as if lately everybody has their own interpretation of the 2nd amendment, what they think it means. It is very clear what it means, even a high school student could read it and know exactally what it says and means but why now liberals are trying to tell us that it is all about hunting or self pretection and has absolutly nothing to do with government. You can tell me till you are blue in the face that it is a fish but if my eyes and ears tell me it is NOT a fish then why do they continue telling me it’s a fish. I know a couple of you will say, what is he talking about a fish for, it’s a metaphor.
” It will be a start and it will save more lives with each year that goes by with stricter controls put on guns too”
So again the “assault weapon ban” is just the first step.
” All guns should be registered just like a car. All guns bought and sold must be registered, much like we do with a car now”
Already are.
” There needs to be stringent licencing for people to own guns, much like we do to drive a car now.”
Why? those who legally own weapons aren’t the problem, but you know that.
” The gun owner should have insurance to cover any potential damage they do with there guns.”
Already covered by existing laws.
” Gun shows should be stopped”
Why? Less than 2% of the guns used in crime come from Gun shows, again you knew that.
@happy guy-you talk about having to license all gun owners and that is the full extent of the problem. The 2nd amendment is all about citizens rights to own guns to protect them from OUR GOVERNMENT. Licensing people to own guns takes that away as the government will know exactly where to go to confiscate guns. If you think they won’t do that look at Australia, Canada and even California. It is the main reason gun owners are against registration and licenses. They already tax us by taxing the sale of guns and ammo and that is enough. This whole issue is not about safety, it is about taking away guns.
Joao Do Carmo…there won’t be new stricker laws with each passing year. The guns that would be included in the ban, that people have legally now, will over time wear out, get turned in, ect. Very few are calling for a ban on all guns. And a total ban on guns will never happen in yours or my grandchildrens life time. Just won’t happen.
All guns bought and sold are not registered. There may be a law saying that, so in this case we need stricter enforcement and greater penalties for not doing it. But all guns should be registered.
In order for me to get a drivers lic. I had to take 1 semester of driver ed. It consisted of classroom work twice a week and on road driving once a week. I am a law abiding citizen but I still was required to take this class to get a lic. I see nothing wrong with requiring someone who wants to buy a gun to have some form of formal training in order to purchase a gun.
My grandson owns a couple of shotguns. He is not required to have any liability insurance that covers him or his actions. Of the gun owners I know none have specific insurance covering the use of their guns. If you are a home owner your house insurance may cover some of this. If you are a renter I doubt that your renters insurance would cover it.
2% of guns are bought at gun shows where no back ground check is required. 3.1 million guns in the US. That means 62,000 guns were purchased without back ground checks. Gun shows IMO should be banned or at least the back ground check loop holes that pertain to gun shows should be closed.
@happy guy-People like you are exactly the reason we are dead set against any more regulation on guns. All new guns purchased at any retail outlet are registered and have been for years and it has done nothing to reduce the number of crazy people who STEAL guns. Also, you are trying to compare gun licensing to car licensing. Not the same thing at all. Car driving is a privilege and gun ownership is a constitutional right.
LVS I am not in favor of taking away your const. right to own a gun. Why can’t you understand nothing has been proposed to ban all guns? Regulating guns and gun purchases is not a violation of the 2nd amendment. So your right to own guns would not be violated.
Surely you can agree that universal standardized national back ground checks would be a good thing. And that closing the loop holes with gun purchases at gun shows need to be addressed. What would be wrong with these? They seem to me to be common sense actions that could help keeping guns out of the hands of the people that shouldn’t own them.
It is also apparent that legal gun owners need to exersize better judgements in how they store and protect their guns. This is one of the issues gun licensing would address.
I hear and read all the time the gun advocates comparison of “cars kill people so why not ban cars?” Seems unfair that when I try to use that comparison gun advocates cry out… apples to oranges. You can’t have it both ways.
@happy guy-I do understand when you say gun owners have a responsibility to secure their guns so criminals can not get them. However, I do have a problem with that as well. At 3:00 AM when someone breaks into my home I want my weapon where I can reach it. The dumbest thing I can think of is to have a gun for protection and have it locked in a safe with a trigger lock clear across my house when that happens. I have the weapon for protection of me an my family and if it can’t be used for that then why have it? My guns were always loaded, even when my kids were home but my kids were always taught that they were not a toy and were loaded. If you have a unloaded gun you might as well use a ball bat for protection. The bat will do a better job. Locking a gun will not stop a thief from stealing it or using it. It might slow them down but it will not stop them.
I am a very light sleeper, every noise that isn’t normal wakes me up. I sleep with my handgun on my night table, during the day my handgun is ALWAYS on my person. I used to have handguns hidden around the house in places that only I knew of. My parents came to visit and I was cleaning one and my mother asked me if it was loaded. I told her that having an unloaded gun in the house was like having a car in the garage with no gas in it, totally useless. All my kids and grandkids know that if by some wild chance they see a gun laying around under NO cercomstances are they to touch it.
archie, The conclusion I made was rather simple. For one, what has been talked about for weeks now includes the ban on assualt weapons. That is the only guns being talked about. Guns killed the lady and you are talking about banning vans so the leap is quite simple.
In response to banning vans, vans are not designed to kill people. Deaths arise from accidents. Secondly, van ownership and driving are highly regulated activities including an elaborate licensing system, insurance mandate, penalties and terms for getting licenses revoked. What we are saying is like calling for seat belt laws after a van crash, not banning vans.
Jim Sanches writes, “If they’re going to use the car analogy, fine, let’s regulate them as well as we do cars then. We mandate seat belts, headlights, the licensing of every car yearly and liability insurance on every car for starters. Not to mention all the rules of the road, traffic lights, stops signs, etc we all must obey even if we’ve never violated any of them.”
I rest my case. Have a nice day, OK?
Naaw. Just say no.
Nice town — Move to DC