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@David-It requires Matt to clear the moderation as it goes into a holding program. If he is busy it might take awhile. Someone tyhinks it is cute to report all of our comments. I would bet Matt can figure out who it is and eventually ban them.

Probably because Petey is still here deleting everyone’s comments. I don’t know zip about technology, but I’m sure there is a way that the publisher could block him completely. He just wont.

matt told me that there was a software problem but when I posts 3 times and it goes right in and then he 4th time it doesn’t, I’ve posted at least 3 times since then and they went through.

@LVS, you’re kind of getting into your old ways again……can you try being a bit nicer? Just saying.

Turn the other check and forgive them…… unless you are an Islamic radical my brother.

Oh, I am a long way from being a Islamic Terrorist, but I already have brothers and I don’t think you are one of them. Tell them to turn the other cheek, the pin heads started the crap.

We all thought he had a come to Jesus moment because of his health issues but apparently he is still gasping for air.

Did anyone else read in the GLOB this morning that they now want to “Up Grade” the locker rooms at the high school. Didn’t they just spend 38 million dollars a few years ago remodeling the high school and then follow with “Up Grading” the entrance to the tune of hundreds of thousand dollars. They will be crying they need more money next sprind\g and the spend sisters will be all over it.

Did anyone else see Jay Urdahl back his car up and hit another car the other day in the parking lot by las palmas?

No did you? And did you report it to the police.

Palmas has the best margaritas. And the food is awesome too.

Do they sell birthday cake by the slice ? I have a coupon.

Baaaahaaaa, I remember you.

All of you cuckservatives are unreal. You scarf down Trump’s rhetoric like a starving dog, focusing all of your fear into hate. It’s astonishing how you can support killing terrorist families and not comprehend how this makes us no better than our enemy. You clutch your gun and Bible to your chest (I won’t even get into the hypocrisy of this) shaking in your boot straps that the brown people are coming to get you. Trump is playing you neanderthals like a fiddle and emboldening our enemies. If he is truly saying what you all are thinking there must be more short sighted stupid people in this country than I thought.

Yes, and you are one of the sighted, stupid people as well as being a sheeple.

Why doesn’t the city give holcim cement plant a tax break or something to open back up? It’s kinda stupid for that nice plant to just sit and not be used.

It is to late. It would cost millions to get that plant operational again.

no it would not cost millions i am in the lehigh plant almost daily and am in holcium alot also. they still run the equipment to keep it up to par

Thanks for your insight. LVS has an opinion about everything and thinks he is our resident scholar.

LVS is the resident something, but scholar is definitely not it.
Many other terms to define him, but an intellectual is out of the equation.

And I know the guy who manages the plant and he says the electrical motors throughout the plant have not been run and would all have to be replaced along with all the conveyers, Kiln which also has not been rotated (That makes it out of round. Stupid people piss me off. The plant is dead. The Union killed it with their demands and they moved south to take advantage of the cheap labor. More members of the Dumb Azz Club.

ok so u are telling me its more cost effective to let it just sit there and not operate? do you know how mucqh land they own and pay taxes on? I was told they are just going to tear it down, but what does that help? they will still own the land and Lehigh dosent want anything to do with it. My suggestion simply says maybe if the city gave them some incentive to reopen they would.

From what I have been told, there is a real estate promoter that is very interested in buying the large pit area for a housing development. They had to maintain the property for five years after closing to get a huge tax break, that time is now up.

yea so what they gonna do now? they will not sell it to any competitors, they need to eithersell it off or make use of it. Like I said if the city gave them a incentive to reopen

@Anonymous-Good luck getting the city to give any incentive. They don’t want good paying jobs here. It would go against the Chamber of Commerce who want to keep wages low.

This ‘downtown’ deal is like watching a soap opera with MC funds at stake…who allowed this to get to this point. Get ready MC for the lawsuit.

..only the sheriff’s dept is run worse.

Some examples please of inappropriate, unprofessional or illegal conduct. Thank you.

..give us your name..thank you

You show me yours and I’ll show you mine.

..let’s start with a DEATH INSIDE the jail. INSIDE!! Do we not pay people to watch over the inmates?

Lets wait until the autopsy determines the cause of death, then we can have this conversation. Other examples please.

..afraid to post your name? uummm maybe you work there..all you have to do is read the multiple stories written on this site..

back in November reports came in on an intoxicated sheriff deputy that was rude and crude in a local bar..of course THAT story is hush hush

I’m guessing somebody at the jail upset you Katie.

no “savage” but like Matt, I am tired of this town being ruined by people in offices they shouldn’t be in, by law enforcement trying to interpret law and forgetting they are to enforce law, by businesses leaving or not even bringing MC into the mix when deciding on where to locate. Our children leave when graduated and never come back do to the lack of true business knowledge these people have brought to city boards. I bring up the fair grounds as the example of nobody wanting to correct a problem, just look the other way or say it’s not their issue. TYPICAL.

Not sure what caused the death but a ‘waiting to happen’ lawsuit for our jail is their decision to overrule an inmate’s regular doctor. If an inmate is prescribed a medication that is a narcotic, the jail personnel won’t allow the inmate to take the prescription. Their on staff ‘doctor’ will prescribe another medication for the patient. There is no weaning off of the old drug. By the way, the on staff doctor isn’t a doctor, she is a nurse practitioner.

When asked why they feel it necessary to overrule a doctor who knows the patient, the jail staff replied because narcotics are illegal. Besides, many inmates are in for drug-related charges. Giving them access to narcotics is not an option. Question asked – how is allowing an inmate his own prescribed medication giving access to other prisoners? Response – We can’t watch them all the time.’ It seems to me watching a prisoner take a pill, and then checking to make sure it was swallowed isn’t all that difficult.

Well I don’t remember any Katie’s on the last ballot. I’m sure I will see it on the next ballot. You have some time to come up with a good plan of attack, so use it wisely. Tell what your going to fix it and how you plan to do it.

well..”savage”.. i would run if i thought the politics in MC would be fair and equal, but with the current media outlets in certain people’s back pockets, it’s not. With law enforcement clearly playing favorites, it’s not. With non business people on boards making business decisions, it’s not. I even question certain judges playing favorites. Matt is right…this is corrupt form the top down, exposing them ticks them off and they hold grudges, and can make your life here in MC hell, believe me.

I just really don’t like law enforcement.

@Katie-Some law officers are good and some are not so good. It is just like anything else. I think a lot of problems come from their supervisors trying to make a name for themselves. I can remember the time when the police were your friend and now they have become the enemy in some cases. Arresting people who are walking down the street is way out of line and the way they try to set up drivers is off the wall too.

The Prime Minister of Israel has denounced Trumps suggested ban on Muslims and in response Trump has postponed a scheduled trip to that country. Even Jews come to the defense of Muslims. The blow hard has crossed the line this time.

Tell the truth Dumb Azz. He said he can’t support his comment and Trump cancelled his trip because he didn’t want to compromise his friend.

Spin it any way you want. It is what it is

most polls im lookin at are showing Americans agree with him. Its completely logical to halt Muslim immigration untill we can screen them better, Isis is already here, and bringing in 100 of thousands of more Syrians is only risking bringing in more. i feel sympathy for the people over there being terrorized but we must take care of our own. san bernandino will be a everyday occurrence if we continue oin this path. they want us dead. its clearly stated in the koran this isnt debatable.

yes they do want us dead but some people don’t believe it. you can warn them all you want that the stove is hot but they are going to touch it anyway.

I was viewing the poll on if people think Kuhn and Bookmeyer can close the deal on the downtown arena. And it occurred funny to me 12 people believe a man that doesn’t work for a living is good at closing multi-million dollar economic development deals. Where did he get all this experience if he is in his 30’s and hasn’t work anywhere for years.

reality tv? college? fever dreams?

I bet you didn’t know that Carter banned all Iranians during the crisis when he was president. Oh my god, how cruel can the liberals be to ban a whole country?

It is probably that “ANONYMOUS CREEP”. You know that card carrying member of the Dumb Azz club. He is great at attacking people much smarter than him. That is what cowardly trolls do.

Yes, it sounds like the creepy guy at the local coffee shops.

It looks like the “Anonymous Creep” without his disguise.

looks ok to me. whats politically incorrect about that.

@Matt-In my opinion (and I have been watching those idiots for a long time) they are in the process of destroying our town. When this fiasco fails like all the other plans (Streetscape, Vision Iowa, Northbridge and of course the all time favorite, Southbridge Mall, there will be no money available to do what the city government is supposed to do, which is maintain infastructure and city services and the city will go to hell.

“LVS” I agree that infrastructure should be our councils first priority but they would rather kiss Robin Andersons and the chamber butt instead and put money into their pet projects.

who deletes all the entertaining comments ? I go to show my friends and they are gone.

That would be the aged resident cult leader of stultification.

Aw look-another card carrying libraterd member of the dumb azz club. Can’t debate so they “ANONYMOUSLY” attack What a bunch of cowards.

By the way, I am not the one deleting all of the comments. Try the weekend “Anonymous Creep”. Or Peter the great who deletes everything he doesn’t like. As I recall, targeted, personal attacks are supposed to be against the rules.

so who will they have down as the original slave traders? Next will be the irish right?

What about the American Indians, of which the white man basically exterminated.

I couldn’t agree with you more, good post. Most people forget about what the white man did to the American Indian. And then made heroes out of the ones that did it.

The Republican Party is in absolute shambles given the advent of Trump and the far right wing. I fear this will insure a Hillary victory.

SAD

does anyone here have a sense of humor?

You nailed it! Our very own Larry, one of the Iconic Three Stooges

They didn’t uphold anything. They just refused to judge it like the liberal cowards they are. Besides, it was jn Illinois in the Chicago area where it makes no difference at all. They will still kill each other. Just more liberal B.S.

An early Christmas present from the Supreme Court, upholding the ban of assault weapons!

2 thumbs up! But there are more than 3 stooges.

Question? I have noticed MC businesses that have taken it upon themselves to paint active and inactive crossing light poles and bases with their business names/colors. Is this legal? Can anyone paint their business logos on inactive ones?

Obviously they have permission from the powers that be. So yes it’s legal.

…seen some more just a block south of the mall, painted blue.Maybe they are old signage posts but seem prettty close to street side, but even, does street signage need city approval?

Yes, it does require city approval. I think there is some leeway for yard sale signs but any advertisement requires a permit. Even realtors and insurance company’s can not put up signs.

Question? Why do the Cerro Gordo County sheriffs get to drive the county sheriff vehicles home and to work? Does the MC Police officers do that? Seems like a lot of free transportation and extra mileage on the squad cars.

@Katie-I believe the idea is by having a squad car sit outdoors in a driveway helps reduce the chance of crime in the area.

ummm..but people would get use to where the officers live in such a small town..that is kinda weak if that is true.

In some areas of the country, there are nice doublewide mobile homes in county parks where police officers are allowed to live rent-free. The value of their rent is taxable income, however. The LEO presence cuts down on crime in the parks. The officers earn their keep in their off-duty time.

in some places officers are basically supposed to be ready at the drop of a hat so instead of having to run to the station to get their vehicle they take them home.

so why doesn’t MC police do the same.?

@Katie-I would say there are not enough squad cars. They rotate four cars on each shift. The other cars are older and are used for emergency’s.

“in some places” does that include the metropolis that is MC?

@Matt-The writing style and comments look like the Anonymous Creep who is constantly bashing you on this site. It wouldn’t take much to find out for sure who it is. Over time there have been sever establishment lackey’s who have posted hate comments under the Anonymous name.

One hell of a lot more knowledgeable than you. You give new definition to the word ignorant. You are a card carrying member of the DUMB A$$ club.

Just another “ANONYMOUS” Dumb A$$

@Anonymous-It is better than the dribble you post. If you don’t like it don’t read it, but shut the freak up about it. You are just another Anonymous whiner.

Ernst later followed up this mistake with an apology tweet.

“Sorry for staff error. @hawkeyefootball had a great season. Extraordinary effort tonight.”

Sorry for staff error?
Just apologize Joni.
Your staff, your fault.

Big deal. She apologized and that is that. People make mistakes unless they are a liberal. Then they just lie about it.

Just like you, no accountability is fine as long as it is a Republican.

Oh, how quickly we forget that prior to his first election, Obama told reporters he had personally visited 54 of the 57 states…

He still got elected. Liberal-biased media has blinders and double-standards.

Sen. Joni Ernst’s Twitter account congratulated the University of Iowa football team on a big victory Saturday night — but the Hawkeyes dropped a heartbreaker to Michigan State in the Big Ten championship game, giving up the winning touchdown with 27 seconds left.
Congrats@hawkeyefootball on the big win

Nice Joni

Do you suppose she might have jumped the gun a little bit?

And we trust her to represent Iowa. OMG

it also could have been someone that worked for her that posted it

Either way she is accountable and she needs to address that in some statement. Im personally offended.

grow up, you are offended because someone made a mistake? this is where this PC crap is going to be the downfall of our country.

The devil is in the details. THAT is a HUGE problem with people these days. They don’t care. It was more important to show her faux support for some sports team than it was to actually have the facts right. At what point should we be concerned about it being a big deal? When SHOULD it count? What ELSE has she got wrong?

@David-Liberals are always offended and who cares. That is why this country is in such sad shape. Let them whine and cry and forget them.

Typical Republican, throws her staff under the bus.
If she had just said “sorry” & left it that you could respect her.
But no, as with any Republican it is never their fault.
Leadership my butt.

kind of like obama and all his cronies passing the buck.

Who gives a shit?

I didn’t think this post would bring this much discussion – if you can call it discussion. I would have posted this if it had been Hillary. And then you could imagine how nasty it would have become because the conservatives would have crucified her. But, she did apologize and, all in all, this wasn’t a big deal. But this could be explained easily – Joni is a Cyclown graduate.

I don’t think that anyone should be able to have an automatic assault weapon except military and police forces that have been trained to use them. These guns are meant to kill people, and many people at a time. So the general public should not be able to own one in my opinion.

An assault weapon is fully automatic and they cost well over 5000.00 plus government fees plus you have to have a permit so the average citizen cannot afford to own one unless he buys it on the black market. The democrats and media want every body to believe that you can go to a gun shop and buy one but you can’t.

Interesting definition. Did you just make that up or did you hear it on fox?

David is correct. A assault weapon is full automatic and you can not buy them or own them without a special permit. They are very expensive. The weapons used in California were NOT assault weapons. They were semi-automatic rifles. That means you must pull the trigger for each shot. They had tried to modify one but were unable to do it. The magazines used were illegal in California,

@Citizen-I see where you are coming from. But, the military and the gun stores do not consider them to be assault rifles unless they are full automatic. Go to a gun store and ask for a assault rifle and they will either tell you they don’t have any or you need a special permit to buy one.

ok let me rephrase this, an assault weapon is select fire, capable of firing both semi auto and fully auto. The first assault weapon was the SG44 which was made by germany in WW2. Trying to link a semi auto only in the category as an assault weapon is not only incorrect but misleading which is what the democrats do very well. The problem there is the simple minded people believe every thing that is told them without bothering to look it up, thats where I think your mistake is on this subject.

@David-I am told it is a software problem.

If I go to a gun shop and ask for an “assault weapon” they will ask me to narrow that down. Every weapon sold in a gun shop is considered an “assault weapon”. That’s the point. Assault a target, some kind of game, or a person (hopefully in defense). For most of the uneducated public, the term “assault weapon” is interchangeable “big scary black gun”. Semi or fully auto doesn’t even come into consideration, how the gun makes them feel is the deciding factor for them.

citizen, you couldn’t be farther from the truth, you are spewing out all the BS that the liberals have. Do you own a rifle?

What does ownership have to do with it? That is the most irrelevant thing I have heard on here. I know how to read a dictionary, relevant legislation, and the crap people spew about “big scary guns”. That is the reality of the world we live in today. People vote how they feel not about facts. Most uneducated people think guns are scary and are uncomfortable at the sight of them. Educated individuals know better. Do you know what guns are used for?

I used to do some gunsmithing back in the 80’s, I used to own an HK91 paratroop carbine, 3 AK47’s, 2 SKS’s, and 1 AR 15. Of all those the HK was the only one considered an assault weapon and this is according to the gun world,only those that are ignorant of the subject and only go by what they read think that a semi auto is assault weapon.

Well if we are going to play the “it used to be like this” game. The first American militia used assault weapons called “muskets” during the revolution. I guess that’s what I get for believing what I read.

you just don’t get it do ya.

@David-It is called diversion. That is what liberals do when they know they are wrong, but won’t admit it.

his name implies that he spent some time either in the guard or the reserves which also means he would know the difference between an assault weapon and a regular semi automatic. He talks like someone who has never fired a weapon in his life but relies on what others tell him.

“Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms.
The definition varies somewhat among regulating jurisdictions, but besides fully automatic firearms, it does includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud.”

That David, would include the AR-15, the AK-47.
I see that LVS is blowing smoke out his ass again whereas David is just misinformed sometimes.

Although David is somewhat rational & fairly intelligent, LVS is a complete idiot making comments that he knows absolutely knowing about.
Attempting to sound like he is not the complete buffoon that he really is.

the term assault weapon started our referring to the functionality of a weapon but when the democrats started with this gun control thing they changed the definition to looks which would include what frank says but looks doesn’t make it fire fully auto or kill faster or more people, it is just a way to scare people to accept what they are saying. Assault weapon is a select fire that fires pistol size lead in a somewhat larger casing. Frank although is somewhat correct in what he says is only repeating the BS the democrats have been saying.

@David-well what do you know? Another member of the Dumb Azz club has reared his ugly head. Frank is just another one of those dumb azzes who is spouting off the libraterd lies about something he knows nothing about. Just another libraterd with his head up his butt aren’t you Franky?

@David-the libraterd trolls really like to come out on the weekends. They all come out with the same B.S. lies and expect everyone to believe them. That Dumb Azz Club just gets bigger and bigger. Pretty soon Richard who goes by DICK will be here too.

David, you mean “Democrats” like your Republican Ronald Reagan?
Gun Control – Ronald Reagan
1. Banning open carry in California.
2. Banning the sale of machine guns and other automatic weapons.
3. Mandating background checks for handgun purchases.
4. Banning assault weapons.
Reagan supported gun control….especially after he was shot.

LVS, if you had even one ounce of common sense, you would have to kick your own ass for being such a dumbass.

ok since you want to go there then here goes. The 2nd amendment was written because our founding fathers were going through a war with a tyrannical government with a standing army. They didn’t want to go through that again so most of them were against a standing army, instead they wanted the citizens to protect our country so they put in the 2nd amendment, the citizens have the right to whatever weapons they could get to protect our country. around 100 years ago our government started to change and they wanted more control. Now it is hard to tell the difference sometimes between republicans and democrats. According to the 2nd amendment, ANY law that infringes our right to bear arms is unconstitutional but the government passed laws anyway. Politicians, when they want to pass a law change the definition of the subject matter to correlate to what they want done. The term assault weapon started in WW2 but they have slowly changed the definition of what an assault weapon is to match what laws they want to pass. This may start a war here but if a criminal thinks that his victim is armed he will either hesitate or choose another victim. With the exception of a mental health problem i say make it easier for a law abiding person to obtain and carry a gun, the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun. My opinion.

Franky, Franky-You are really to stupid to comment on here. You have just moved to the top of the Dumb Azz club. Making up story’s about past presidents will do you no good. No one believes anything a Libraterd like you says. You took lesson from the Great Liar in the White house and his main squeeze Hitlary the hag.

LVS can stop posting anytime unless he has something else to do besides name calling.
David can stop trying to figure out where I have been, what I have done, and what I own. It won’t help you make your point that “assault weapons” are only fully automatic scary guns that cost >$5000 and you need a class 5 license to legally obtain one. Believe what you want because you won’t even believe the dictionary.

In the 60’s the car companies built muscle cars, they set the standards, by the time the 80’s came along the cars changed so they changed the definition of what a muscle car is. You can add all the accessories you want to make it look like a muscle car or an assault weapon but looks don’t mean squat. They can put in the dictionary an assault weapon has a barrel shroud or a pistol grip or a detachable magazine but that doesn’t make it an assault weapon, the ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that makes it an assault weapon is the select fire, everything else is just BS.

@Citizen-I have left you alone but that wasn’t good enough for a lying pin head like you who like to make up stories about something you know nothing about. Now, you have just joined the Dumb Azz Club. What are you going to do about it you big mouth libraterd.

Wrong again there David.
The definition that you supplied “the ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that makes it an assault weapon is the select fire” is incorrect.
The definition that you gave is for an Assault Rifle, not an Assault Weapon.
Those are two very different & distinct classifications.
Akin to the difference between a Battle Rifle & an Assault Rifle.

The definition of an an Assault WEAPON is:
A semi-automatic firearm with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip and other possible items such as flash suppressor or barrel shroud.

ok this is the last time i am going to say this because you people are just not getting it. The definition that you are giving me is the definition that the democrats changed it to just to get their gun control measures passed. assault is a verb which means action not looks. You ask any gun smith, anybody that works in a gun shop, anybody that has fired both styles, i would say anybody that was or is in the military but they are getting rid of a lot of good soldiers and replacing them with sheep. You ask anybody with hands on knowledge, not book knowledge, and they will tell you.

The point I was making was that certain guns and weapons should not be available to the general public. Some guns are to specifically kill people, many people, quickly. And there are too many of these guns getting into the wrong hands. There’s too many licensed guns getting into the wrong hands also. We live in a world of extreme violence and hate. It’s quite sad actually.

if our government turns tyrannical and we end up in a war, you will wish that you had some of those weapons. and I said IF.

Bringing guns to a drone fight?

savage, let me ask you a question. Lets say you were in the military as a drone operator and your superiors gave you an order to attack fellow citizens and you knew the order was wrong and decided not to follow that order, you also decided to leave the military. Would you just leave that drone for the next guy to use or would you try to take it or sabotage it? I have talked to many soldiers and they said when that time comes they will do whatever it takes to take the equipment with them or destroy it.

Lets say your tyrannical government, has come to be. Your going to be painted as a terrorist. So being a threat to the greater good they will get somebody to follow those orders. And let’s face it as bad as people think things are right now, for your tyrannical government to take place things need to get much worse.

maybe they will get worse,maybe not only time will tell but history favors the victors, our founding fathers at the time according to england they were considered terrorists but since they won history sees them as patriots. Like I said,only time will tell.

traitor not terrorist. the word hadn’t been invented yet.

ok I will give you that one but either way you are always contradicting me.

It will not happen. No one trust Obama to keep his word. He has lied to many times to get his way.

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! I trust Obama. Some of us still have brains…

hahahahahh..oh, your being serious..!

Question? Could ‘Southport’ be turned into a gated neighborhood/community? Heard this rumor.

@Katie R-I guess anything is possible. I have heard that they have major sewer problems at Southport. That is why no one will move in there. That shopping center has been there for a long, long time and there must be a reason no one leases stores there.

Question? Should the city ‘give-up’ on this debacle that is the mall entertainment complex and concentrate on a total north end remodel?
opinions………

You make it sound like you have been there.

@Matt-there used to be lights up there and even stop lights on the corners of 15th and 14th street. The city took them all down as a cost savings measure so they could spend the money downtown.

Question? Did Cerro Gordo county even have a fair this year? If they did those numbers have to be terrible. Do they post accurate attendance or do they guess?

we will see how long that lasts

I trust him.

The process of adding people to the terror watch lists is as imperfect as the intelligence officials tasked with doing so. There have been reports of “false positives,” or instances in which an innocent passenger has been subject to treatment under a no-fly or selectee list because his or her name was similar to that of another individual. In one highly publicized incident in 2005, a 4-year-old boy was nearly barred from boarding a plane to visit his grandmother.

The watch-list guidance was supposedly revised in part to prevent incidents like these, but with more than 1.5 million people added to the lists in the last five years, mistakes are always inevitable. Just ask Rahinah Ibrahim, a Stanford University student who ended up on a no-fly list in 2004 after an FBI agent accidentally checked the wrong box on a form.

But then if you were to be mistakenly added to a list, you probably wouldn’t know — unless it stopped you from flying. The government has been extremely secretive about the names on the various watch lists. If you were to learn that you were wrongly placed on a watch list, good luck getting off it. As Scahill and Devereaux reported, you can file a complaint with the Department of Homeland Security’s Traveler Redress Inquiry Program, which begins a review “that is not subject to oversight by any court or entity outside the counterterrorism community.”

And if you were to get your name removed from the watch list, the intelligence agencies aren’t even obligated to inform you of your updated status. Helpful.

The secretive nature of the terror watch lists has come under court scrutiny recently. A federal judge ruled in June that the government must develop a new process under which individuals can challenge their inclusion on the no-fly list. The judge found the current process “wholly ineffective.”

Yes. There is no reason a civilian should have an AK-47.

except for the main reason the 2nd amendment was written, for protection against a tyrannical government.

And how many times in the last 200+ years have you needed weapons to protect yourself from the USA?

We have never had a president who tried to take away our rights before. And, that reason is the 2nd amendment.

I am not concerned with lack of need in the past. I am concerned with the need in the future, just like our founding fathers were.

1947 in pennsylvania, a small town government tried to load the ballots so the citizens got into a firefight with the local police just to get a fair election. 2014 at the bundy ranch, 2014 red river texas,2015 idaho, 2015 oregon. There have been many more but i am in too much a hurry to look them all up.

If the government wants you bad enough, bend over and kiss your a$$ good bye. There is absolutely no amount of fire power to out shoot big brother. Witness the recent response of the commandos in California. Your pea shooters will be rendered absolutely useless so lets get real about the government take over argument.

That’s not true. Enough citizens with firepower and who is left? The government’s force is comprised of citizens. The scenario to fear is isolation and rendition. The people united, will never be defeated.

otis,you are wrong, with every government agency including the entire military they number around 3 million. There are at least 150 million gun owners and say only 10 % fight back that would put it at 10 million man army. We totally outnumber them either way. I have 1 word to tell you, vietnam. we outnumbered them and had better technology than them but they used guerrilla warfare to beat us, that and our politicians got involved too.

Avatar. In the good old days I would absolutely agree with you. But lets be honest. Our Nation is more divided now than during the Civil War. It is frightening and personally sickening. There is hate talk between Black and White, Democrat and Republican, Candidates. Listen to some of the language right here, so disrespectful of one another. We have much work to do. The real enemy may be us.

Otis, black protestors in the streets are literally changing the face of justice in America. You underestimate the power held, by, the People. Compassion and Unification. I support Sheriff Pals because he discerns between the good and the bad. I support the 2nd Amendment. We will handle Muslim aggressors. They better not in Cerro Gordo, cause we’ll send them packing- without their brides.

David……. OMG! Are you even remotely suggesting that we lost the Vietnam War? Shame on you!

When it comes down to it, I will always defend the homeland. Why? Because each and every day and night in North Iowa is met with peace, and security…and no matter what your view du jour, that is worth protecting. God Bless North Iowa.

You know why i support Kevin Pals for Sheriff? Because way back in the day when he was first elected, he saw me on the pedestrian mall and invited me into his celebration party, which was being held on the plaza. That gesture of welcome and inclusion stuck with me. He is a good man, and while we may not entirely line up, i trust that he has thw best interest of the County in his heart. Obviously none of us want marijuana shared with children. I would set the legal age to around 26.

we were kicking their butts but the politicians got involved and decided to pull us out with our tail between our legs. They held their own against us but peer pressure back home caused them to pull us our, just like iraq.

David….. So your answer is yes…we lost the war in Vietnam? G’ Damn good thing we didnt see you at operation LZ this summer.

we pulled our troops out as fast as possible with the north Vietnamese coming in and they took over, what would you call that? Plus all the experts say the same thing so they are all wrong too?

David….. Tell us your real name, address and phone number so that we can invite you to speak at our next Veterans Day event.

I spent 12 years in the military, I am proud of the military and what we have done, i don’t like the way the vietnam war ended and the way we pulled out of iraq but it all comes down to 1 thing, politicians got involved in both of them and it was taken our of our control. Hate me all you want for what i said but it doesn’t change history.

Nothing in the world has changed in the last 200+ years? Maybe there is a reason they call them Amendments.

David, you didn’t spend 12 years in the military
You spent 12 years in the National Guard.
One 16 month active duty/deployment plus 38 days/year for 10 years.
You didn’t even spend the equivalent of an average 4 year enlistment in the real military.
Then you quit because that active duty was “too hard”.

@Anonymous-You A-Hole. How much time did you spend in the military? Did you see any combat at all? How can a coward like you ever disrespect one of the people who did serve in the military and who put his life on the line protecting a jerk off like you? You are just trying to belittle a better man than you will ever be. Weasels like you who have done nothing or been anything and still think you can tear down a man who has make me sick.

Actually LVS, I spent 8 years in the Navy.
Of that, I spent two tours in the Mekong Delta as part of the Riverine forces.

What I do have is a serious problem with assholes like you LVS that never served in the Military at all & yet espouse all your war rhetoric.
You’re nothing more than a chicken-hawk, chickenshit that gives those of our generation a bad name.
You have no idea what it is like because you were a lily-livered pussy when you were young & now you you are trying to redeem your yellow streak with all your BS tough guy act.
David did serve, while you LVS are a blowhard coward & beneath contempt.

@Anonymous-If what you say is true and I really doubt that a coward like you was in the Navy unless you were a galley cook and were probably kicked out for gross cowardness. You are just a mealy mouth liar and always have been. You don’t have guts enough to even use a real name on here but love to snipe against people much better and smarter than you will ever be.

@Anonymous-Come on chicken sh##. Put your real name on here and lets see how tough you really are. My bet is you are a sniveling coward hiding behind the Anonymous name. You say you have been in the military and I do not believe one word of it. Real men do not brag, they just are. You are what you are which is a cowardly troll sniping around against you betters. Put up or shut up you damn sneak.

Not bragging LVS, you were the one that brought it up, dumbass.
You are one seriously pathetic old asshole LVS or whatever your real name is.
Chicken-hawk & chickenshit just touches the tip of the iceberg when it comes to your sad existence.
While those of us that were just trying to stay alive in that shithole called Vietnam, you were sitting on your pussy ass.
I do not have any problem with those that did not serve in the military, unless they are like you.
Spouting off on going to war, when they have no idea what it is like.

Actually I am glad that you never were in the military.
It was pussies like you that got people killed.
The first time you would have stared at incoming fire, you have pissed your pants and cowered like the little girly-man that you are.

LVS = Internet tough guy / real world pussy

anonymouse, My first 6 years I was fulltime in the guard, In the 1133rd we did missions hauling units and equipment, i was on the road 10 months each year. After that I was an instructor which means i worked 5 to 6 months a year and I am talking monday through saturday and sometimes sunday. I took every class that came along which means even more time. the last 6 years i was weapons instructor as well as driving instructor and the last 3 years on the rifle/pistol team which meant more time. Belittle me all you want, it just makes you look bad.

@Anonymous Crybaby-You are a damn liar. A winey a$$ crybaby LIAR like you never would have made it through boot camp without someone offing a P.O.S. Big Mouth like you. You have lied consistently ever since you started trolling on here. OK gutless, put your name on here. You have made of crap every day tlo make your self look like a big man so stand up and put your name on here and maybe you will get the opportunity to see what a real man can do you damn sissy.

anonymouse, your comment about me never serving in the military, just the national guard shows me your level of ignorance. In the active duty you had 6 days a week to train at your job, we had 2 days a month and 2 weeks a year to train to the same level that the active duty was so in essence that makes the guard better than the active duty. Since you didn’t mention that means you never served in the guard let alone my unit so the only information you have on me is from peter and he had no clue to begin with.

@David-I have it on good authority that he was never in the service as I suspected. He made the whole line of crap up just to harass you. As I said, he is a damn sissy liar and that is all he is. Just another one of the liberal clowns that show up on here from time to time. You have nothing to be ashamed of, you did your duty.

David, while I do appreciate your service, the fact that you think the National Guard is trained to the same level in 1 weekend/month & 2 weeks a year to full-time active duty personnel shows how delusional you really are.

No matter how you try to paint it, you were not in the Military for 12 years.
You were in the National Guard for 12 years….huge difference!

And then we get back to good old LVS.
“I have it on good authority that he was never in the service as I suspected” – LVS
You really are something else, asswipe. Your comment above just validates the fact that you are & always have been a liar.
In addition to being the pussy & dumbass that you have always been.
Your pathetic attempt to be a man is almost laughable.
You’ve never been a man LVS, and that is what makes you so angry, that you never grew a pair so you just make stuff up.
I bet that you even squat to pee.

your comment about the guard not being apart of the military shows me that LVS was right. The 101st treated us like you are right now in iraq and their general was relieved of command so your ignorant, civil war thinking is way out of date. If the guard was so bad then why was every body trying to get us to do their missions? We were better than every active unit we came across, attitudes like yours went out with the invention of gun powder so why don’t you stick your head back up your a$$ where it came from and leave the big boys alone.

David, the National Guard did improve after the first deployments in 2003-2005.

They weeded out the non-hackers that had been just skating along pretending to be soldiers.

They either forced out the non-hackers or the non-hackers just quit of their own accord like this guy and I quote:
“I decided before I even went…I knew I was going to call it quits.”
Ring a bell there, David

Do you know the difference between an active duty soldier and a member of the national guard? The active duty soldier just has one job.

I know this anonymouse is trying to piss me off but all he is showing everybody is his total ignorance. Plus he is putting down every body in my unit and every body that served, even a squid isn’t that stupid but I could be wrong. You know absolutely nothing about me except for what someone else that doesn’t know me told you. Keep the insults coming, makes you look like an ass.

@David-I see that Anonymous A-Hol# is still trying to bring you down to his level with his lies and bull crap. My sources tell me he is doing that and then laughing about how he dis-respected one of our vets. He is a lowlife piece of scum and we are coming for him. He will never see it coming until to late.

@Bodacious-You see you just do not get it. We do not trust the government, especially one that has lied as much as this one. We will never give up any rights because it would never end there. This is exactly what Hitler did to disarm Gemany’s citizens.

When it comes down to it, I will always defend the homeland. Why? Because each and every day and night in North Iowa is met with peace, and security…and no matter what your view du jour, that is worth protecting. God Bless North Iowa…because I will.

Too bad you didn’t study harder in school so you’d know how our government operates. One segment of it can’t do what they want without approval from the other segments. It doesn’t take a gun to defeat the government. It takes a vote. So you can fuck off blasting Obama. He is NOT a one man band. duh.

The framers of our Constitution had a grand vision for the our Nation but could not have foreseen the evolution of weaponry. The right to bear Arms was one thing back then and quite another today due to technology. What type of Armament the public has a right to use needs to be redefined but that will never happen. The next generation will possess infrared lasers I predict.

back then they had muskets which was the most up to date weapons that was made. They saw the need for advanced military weapons to protect themselves from a nation like england which would also include our own nation if it became to tyrannical. This is what the liberals all lose their minds on, the 2nd amendment the way it is written could mean that we as citizens could have access to every type of military weapon which could include fighters, helicopters, even nuclear missiles if we had the money but these are just not feasible. If you don’t want to have a gun, thats fine don’t but don’t preach about taking mine away because it could be mine that save your life.

If you think you should limit the 2nd amendment, you might as well limit the first.

There are reasonable limits on all the amendments, that is the way the framers wrote them.

I think each amendment is very specific, you say reasonable limits, which sounds like it could be interpreted a number of different way. I think they are very specific on what they say so it could only be interpreted 1 way. My opinion only.

Ipaid for a news and can not read all of the mail…Jim

California has the toughest and most worthless gun laws in the country. They have banned all Assault Weapons (that did a lot of good). They have limited magazines to 10 rounds or less “The terrorist paid a lot of attention to that., It is a may issue state (It sure stopped the terrorist). It does not allow open carry (If people had been armed they could have protected themselves), They require background check at gun shows and for all firearm purchases (That sure stopped them). And they have a ten day minimum waiting period (That really helped). FOOLS.

I agree with you on this one LVS. Rarely happens.

gun laws when not enforced across the board are worthless. When neighboring states don’t have the same laws not hard to get a gun. Something like half the gun crimes in New York the guns come from South Carolina. i believe if you commit a crime with a gun you serve 25 yrs min. Everybody should be allowed to carry where ever they want. If not a felon. Police can’t be every where so the people have to step up. i’m as liberal as they come but believe you have the right to protect yourself. \This day and age large gatherings of people a certain portion need to be carrying. Would not be xmas shopping in any large city in a mall. The worst case scenario was these animals got killed. Sure it saved a trial and the expense of jail time. But what better place for a 30 something age person living in solitary confinement to spend the rest of their lives. lets see how allah supports them The US supports half of the muslims in the world any way. How many 20 to 30 year old men are leaving their country as refuges and want america to bail them out. Stay and fight. most of the money to finance these terrorist comes from Saudi Arabia. All religions should be banned world wide. their all a bunch of nut jobs. christians included. don’t have to look any further than Colorado. Are you freaking out over this probably not because it fits your agenda. He was a terrorist just like california.

@Katie-I believe he reviews every deleted (Reported) post and decides if it violates his rules. If he likes it he will put it back on.

Matt, can’t you restore comments once they have been reported erroneously or by a troll?

so when i said they were looking for 3 middle eastern men, that was enough to be deleted permanently?

That is probably because you were wrong as you most often are.

I was wrong, it was 2 middle eastern men and 1 woman.

@David-You were not wrong. When it all started all the news reports said they were looking for three men. Only after they shot up their escape SUV did they realize that one was a woman, not a man. The liberals are wrong again.

those darned liberals. they cause so much trouble.

@David-Did you know Syed Farook is Arabic for Global Warming. Damn, I’ll bet those people feel stupid.

The democrats (liberals, progressives) will be the downfall of our country. Either by accident or on purpose they have turned into traitors.

@David=Liberals with their relentless pursuit to take away our rights a citizens are fast becoming the enemy of liberty. As we would with a terrorist trying to take away those rights we have the right to protect ourselves and our family. They are pushing for a civil war and should be careful what they wish for.

And all the Republican candidates held hands, sang kumbaya, bowed their heads and prayed. No proposals at all, just pandering to the religious right and the NRA.

all those proposals don’t work because there are already laws on the books that deal with them that are not enforced. How many laws banning high capacity magazines do you need before criminals start obeying them, NONE because by nature criminals don’t obey the law,only idiots think they will.

So, David, what do you suggest? You tirelessly repeat the mantra that guns don’t kill, people kill. And you offer no solutions. There have been more mass shootings in the US this year than days since January 1. Arming people doesn’t seem to help. What will stop this senseless evil from happening again?

You are wrong about 1 thing,you said arming people didn’t help. 99.9% of the shootings were in gun free zones so it doesn’t matter if we armed every single citizen, if there are places that is illegal to carry thats where they will hit.

Banning those magazines will do no good at all. There are thousands and thousands of them already out there. Besides, You can load a mag in 2 seconds flat and be shooting again. So restricting those does no good at all. Maybe we should ban all remote control cars so they can’t use them to make any more bombs. Sander’s is just waiting for ET to come and get him.

So, LVS, I ask you the same question I asked David. What is your solution? Do you have one? Or should we just accept the fact that criminals will always have weapons and ignore these mass shootings as a part of life?

Arm yourself and protect your family like a real man would do.

I am armed. I have told you before, I own firearms. A 45 in the hands of a civilian doesn’t do much good against an AK-47.

Multiple armed civilians can provide return fire which will disrupt an active shooter.

multiple armed civilians, without coordination or ongoing training, what could go wrong?

bodacious, are you saying that if a person has an ak 47 then he will always win? A person that is a good shot with a pellet gun let alone a 45 can defeat a person with an AK. The size of the weapon has nothing to do with it, it is the drive and the will to live of the person that is defending his own life and that of his family that will win.

Pistols are notoriously inaccurate. You must be for arming and training every child from kindergarten on up in handling firearms. Just because you are trained and fairly accurate with a pistol at the shooting range doesn’t mean you will be calm and collected when faced with a situation like you describe.

shooting at the range will give you confidence in your shooting ability. It is what is inside you that determines wither you can pull the trigger or not. If you are a good shot but you feel inside that you don’t think you can pull the trigger then you should not be carrying a weapon.

@Bodacious=All self defense depends on your attitude. If you think you will miss you probably will. If you think you will win you probably will. I have been hunting and shooting all my life and do not think I would miss if it came to that.

Ive been in a situation with hostile gunfire. A crazy man in the woods behind me. It is startling to say the least. Better to be armed than not armed. The biggest confusion results from the conditioning and consequences society has instilled on us. The fear of going to jail is what will cost you your life because it causes you to hesitate. If it was all out uninhibited war, i would have shot that mofo dead whwn he shot at me. But instead i called deputies and waited an hour for them to arrive. And they did NOTHING. He got away with his pot shots.

peter, most of the stuff you say i disagree with but this I agree with. If there was a shooting at the mall or at my grandsons school would probably be killed because i obey the law and don’t carry there but if it was somewhere else at least i would make him duck for cover or run away.

Get off the site Lagios. No one wants you here and no one wants to hear you lies and make believe story’s

@Lagios the idiot-You are still a card carrying P.O.S. No one wants you not even your mother. She keeps you in the basement where no one can see the baby killer.

Did you know there have been more mass killings under Obama than under the four previous presidents combined. We don’t need gun control, we need Obama control.

Bodacious, I’ve seen the biggest baddest most gung ho soldier turn and run at the sound of gunfire and the skinniest shyest soldier run into the fire to save a fallen friend. Nobody really knows how they will react when the bullets start to fly. All i know is that if given the opportunity, most people would do whatever they could to save a person that was hurt.

I’m starting to believe LVS is full of chicken shit. David at least makes an attempt to be civil and reasonable, but this LVS creep needs to go.

That creep Lagios keeps posting under his cute little names. What a coward he is. Banned from the site and sneaking around like a spoiled little brat. His momma never did teach him not to go where he is not wanted.

at least it’s getting easier to pick him out of the group by the names he uses.

Bodacious, you notice how neither David nor LVS will respond to direct questions?

All that either them can do spout their usual inane rhetoric.

don’t know what you are talking about adam because I answered his question.

Sad part David, is that you really believe that.

Bodacious asked you directly “What will stop this senseless evil from happening again?”

And you blew him off with one of your gun rants.

So David let’s pose the question again.
What will stop this senseless evil from happening again?

I have answered it but bleeding heart liberals have a shit fit when i do. NOTHING will stop them from doing what they do, they only thing that will stop them is another responsible person, wither he has a baseball bat or a knife or a gun, standing up to them is the only way to stop them but you don’t want to hear that because you are all cowards.

It was just a question David, no need to go ballistic.
I understood completely what you said, up until you called me a coward.

So because someone has different beliefs or opinions than you, that makes them a coward?
Pretty bold statement considering that it comes from a quitter.
Ya, I read all about you.
Perhaps you would like to share that part with everyone.

someone doesn’t like me so they make up their own story on why i got out of the military so they start calling me a quitter. Getting out was the hardest decision I have had to make because loved the military. You say you know all about me, then tell me your last name because even my very close friends don’t know what i went through and why i eventually decided to leave. You are right about one thing,i did get upset and called you and others out there a coward and i shouldn’t have because I don’t know you. But by trying to use someones made up past about me against me, I just might.

Adam. Thank you for joining several of us who are attempting to raise the level of conversation here and have mature dialogue between respectful adults.

It wasn’t a mass shooting, it was a terrorist attack by Muslim Terrorists.

Oh, now it makes a difference? There have still been more mass killing in the US than days in this year.

now i know where you get your information bodacious, i saw yesterday on msnbc that there was 352 mass shootings in the U.S. this year but i read on reuters today that there was only 166 mass shootings this year.

@David=Now we know why he gets it wrong so much of the time. MSNBC is so far left it is going to fall off the planet.

Actually, The Washington Post and the New York Times reported that ‘fact’ along with many other media outlets. I checked Fact Check (that notorious left wing web site) and found that Mass Shooting Tracker’s definition of mass shooting isn’t what mine is. I should have checked fact Check first. It doesn’t matter-any mass shooting is 1 too many.

I agree

It’s what you do when you don’t have to go to work and live with mommy. If you don’t get your way, you make the others pay.

And hang out in the coffee shops creeping people out.

There is a picture of a thief stealing from a bank ATM on Mason City Scanner. It sure looks a lot like a guy from Clear Lake.

Have you reported your suspicions to the police?

Of course he hasn’t. He just hangs out here all day and blows smoke up Peters portal.

Yes, I have and they are looking into it. He can expect a knock on his door any time now.

Well what do you know? My comments from yesterday where I said the Democrats were burying their heads in the sane over this and attacking the 2nd amendment has been deleted. This was radical, planned terrorism by Muslims and there is no doubt about it. California has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country and it sure didn’t slow down the bad guys. If it had they would have used bombs. When are we going to have enough of the Democrats lies and take control of our country again. And then the idiot in the White House wants to let more of them into our country.

my comment that they were looking for 3 middle eastern men was deleted too. Not sure how that could offend someone unless it was because I said it.

@David-It is that Anonymous A-ho##. I caught him/her red handed yesterday.

How do you know that the weapons were purchased in California?

They have proof that the 9MM were bought by him in California and were bought legally. The 223’s were purchased legally but maybe not by him. I’ll bet this happened because of Global Warming.

Jesus, now CNN is advertising itself in Arabic. All part of the conditioning. I didnt want to believe it, but Obama may really be trying to destroy America. They refuse to acknowledge this was Jihad performed by 2 Muslims.

MSNBC is calling it “workplace massacre”. Trump or Cruz is going to win in a landslide.

i love seeing these comments. finnaly people are waking up. ISIS is funded by united states to destabilize middle east. sound familar? bush did same thing with al queada. there coming to our country and killing us and our mainstream media outlets are telling us not to rush to judgment and there ‘Non Caucasian”? what is that crap. call them ragheads and terrorist.

Thank you. Its all about the oil and power and control.

When is Marquardt going to wale up and realize all this censoring is destroying adult conversations? He treats people like kids.

There wouldn’t be any need for censoring if Lagios would stay off the site.

Another beautiful day in Second Amendment Land. Another mass shooting of innocent Americans in California. Another day of death and barbarism. But God will Bless us as we are doing such a fantastic job of keeping out Syrian refugees!

1 report that I read said the 3 men were of middle eastern decent. We will see once they release an official report.

You obviously spoke too soon butt munch. This was an ISIS attack.

If it was ISIS where did they procure their weapons? They didnt ship them from across the pond. They bought them here. No background check. Conceal and carry without question. No waiting period on long guns. ISIS CAN USE OUR LAWS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

And you want to bring 70,000-100,000 Syrian and iraq refugees into America? Are you f-in nuts?

No I honestly don’t. I’m just pointing out the absolute absurdity of our priorities related to insuring the most fundamental of all human rights….the safety and security of our families and communities. And neither do I support Impeach Obama language. We are one America, lets figure out how to live together.

Maybe they got them from Obamas brother, Eric (the gun runner) Holder. Remember him, the guy that got off scott free.

or it could be leland yee, democratic senator from Ca.

Are you retarded or just a troll?

http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-Firearms-in-California

if everybody went by your list then only law abiding people would have guns,not criminals.Sounds like a pipe dream to me.

they could have brought the weapons over from mexico or ever hear of fast and furious? Plus since my last post was deleted they were looking for 3 middle eastern men, one named Farook Saeed

I see Michael Patric Reich is in jail again today. What Idiot judge let this piece of crap back on our streets? Wt are they waiting for? For him to kill someone. He will just NARC on someone and be back out in a week.

Question? Do you feel the law enforcement in town plays favorites when certain people are breaking or broke the law like law enforcement family members,business owners, realtors, or public officials?

Absolutely-I know a public official personally and his son was picked up on a DUI and the charges just went away and never went to court. It has been happening for years. Do you really think the Country Club set never drinks and drives when they leave the club. It is hands off for those people.

He’s right. Double standards been going on for years. Look at Minert’s kids. DUI’s disappear. MC is corrupt legal system.

Chicken shit. Talk trash from behind your keyboard but no guts, no glory.

LVS you state the accused was picked up and charged with DUI. That would be public record. Why then so fearful to name names you coward??

Absolutely. The Sauers’ that finally moved out of the state 4 years ago still have pending warrants and continue to threaten people still residing in Mason City. Their death threats and intimidation are continuous and the MCPD refuses to do anything about it but, the Sauers’ call from Florida, or North Carolina (the family split up, surprise, surprise) and the police go knocking for them. The ongoing joke was that the family was made out of Teflon because nothing ever stuck…… makes one wonder.

It’s not up to the MCPD. It’s up to the victims to file charges and then prove them.

The victim has reported it to the MCPD and given them the recorded phone calls, text messages, and emails. Still nothing. Even an attorney that they have contacted in town said that it would be a long shot to get harassment charges or a no contact order. You would think, with the entire family involved in the intimidation and at least two members giving death threats it would be considered Domestic Terrorism under the Patriot Act.

Question?With all the vacant buildings in town, why are the leases so expensive? I know of two possible new businesses that went to CLake.

living with mommie destroys the ambition to make something of your life.

No, living with mommy spares you from needing to whore yourself out to a stupid job living in an overpriced cubicle owned by Russ Hardy or Ed Kent. Quite thrifty really.

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