MASON CITY – It was reported to the NIT newsroom late Sunday that abortion protestors were seen near Mercy Hospital Sunday.
According to our source, the protestors were: “lined up on the sidewalk on 4th Street SW, in front if the mercy employee parking lot directly across from Walgreens. I’d say there were a dozen people with signs, some sitting in lawn chairs, lined up from south Taylor to south pierce. One lady and a man even had 4 kids with them, including a baby which they were trying to wrap up in a blanket to stay warm. Their two young daughters were snuggled up, sitting on the sidewalk. One sign said “abortion kills children”. Lots of posters! This was around two o’clock (Sunday).”
Joao Do Carmo
It is obvious you are not a thorough reader. It is also very obvious you are accustomed to changing the subject from the sanctity of human life to religion. Neither my post nor my personal philosophy on abortion is based on the existence of a soul, of God, of religion, or of anything even similar to those things. The description of the Chain of Life was taken from their website. They are a Christian group demonstrating peacefully their values. Any other group is as free as they are to do likewise. That does not mean that ONLY Christians are opposed to abortion, nor does it mean that their opposition is based on their religious values. I know a great many non-Christians and atheists who are opposed to abortion. Their opposition is not based on God, a soul, an afterlife. It is based on the sanctity of human life that is undeniably relevant. I also know Christians who are in favor of abortion.
It is NOT a religious issue, period…not for me, nor for anyone. People such as yourself attempt to pin that characteristic on those who oppose abortion because then you think you have an ironclad rebuttal —- “I don’t believe in God or in your god or in a soul or in religion or whatever, therefore that does not align with my thinking/values.” Again, not about religion.
People either value life or they do not. If we collectively did not value life, then there would be no laws against murder, no health care system dedicated to preserving, enhancing and saving lives.
It is all semantics, as I said previously. As a nation, we do value life, that is undeniable. So for pro abortionists to really convince people of the validity of abortion, they need to convince people that it is not a LIFE that is being aborted. The debate is not centered on God, religion, a soul – it is centered on the definition of life, which has been redefined by those in favor of abortion. Just as it was redefined by Hitler to convince people that Jews were actually a non-human breed. My question to that would be, how do you “abort” something that is not living? Wait, I know, you can’t! So then the debate moves from the definition of “life” to the definition of “a person.” Word games.
Wow did I hit a nerve there Renee? Must have, you’ve come out insulting and bringing Hitler into the discussion.
“Wow, why so many haters? This was a reverent and somber demonstration that has occurred nationally for 26 years. “LIFE CHAIN is a peaceful and prayerful public witness of pro-life individuals standing for 90 minutes praying for our nation and for an end to abortion. It is a visual statement of solidarity by the Christian community that abortion kills children and that the Church supports the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception until natural death.”
And “mom of three” you are mistaken. Life is sacred to God from conception. The abortion debate is not a religious one, it is a an issue of basic human rights. Sadly, the most dangerous place in the world for children to live, is in the womb. The basic human rights of the unborn are trumped by the rights of the mother. The “viability” argument is empty. NO baby is viable without a caretaker. And many babies are “viable” at very early stages in pregnancy, thanks to modern medicine.
For anyone that says “a woman has a right to choose” I would ask: Why wasn’t birth control CHOSEN? Why wasn’t abstention CHOSEN? Why wasn’t adoption CHOSEN? Women have lots of choices. The choice to kill should not be one of them.”
You words? Of course they are (I cut and pasted them). YOU brought god and religion into your rant.
“The description of the Chain of Life was taken from their website. They are a Christian group demonstrating peacefully their values.” Why bring the quote into the discussion at all? Unless you you wanted to inject their religious belief into your rant.
“It is NOT a religious issue, period…not for me, nor for anyone.” It most certainly is for some, and not for others. See your quote, you know the one from your original post.
Supposedly planned parenthood is coming to Mason City in 2016. Very sad, a life is a life, no matter how small. I’ve lost 2 babies early on in pregnancy & it was awful, took it’s toll on my mind & body. I can’t imagine someone would intentionally end a life that hasn’t even had a chance. Murder in cold blood.
Read the following comment by one of the members of the drafting sub-Committee of the UDR and the rights entitled by mere “fact of existence” and the right to “fully develop one’s personality.”
The first draft of the Declaration was proposed in September 1948 with over 50 Member States participating in the final drafting. By its resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948, the General Assembly, meeting in Paris, adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights with eight nations abstaining from the vote but none dissenting. Hernán Santa Cruz of Chile, member of the drafting sub-Committee, wrote:
“I perceived clearly that I was participating in a truly significant historic event in which a consensus had been reached as to the supreme value of the human person, a value that did not originate in the decision of a worldly power, but rather in the fact of existing—which gave rise to the inalienable right to live free from want and oppression and to fully develop one’s personality. In the Great Hall…there was an atmosphere of genuine solidarity and brotherhood among men and women from all latitudes, the like of which I have not seen again in any international setting.”
@Renee-Big Deal. They believed a lot of things back then that are just not true.
“For anyone that says “a woman has a right to choose” I would ask:”
You whole post suppose that everyone in the universe has a Christrian soul. Having or not having a soul is a belief. One that may or maynot be shared by others.
“Why wasn’t birth control CHOSEN?” Provide the evidence that it wasn’t. No form of birth control is 100% effective. And for some religions birth control (excepting the rhythm method) is a mortal sin.
“Why wasn’t abstention CHOSEN?” Really? I can’t enjoy intimacy with my wife for your fear for my “soul”
“Why wasn’t adoption CHOSEN?” You’ve just reduced a human being to a womb. Have you ever wondered why couples adopted outside the US? Before you sling the adoption option have all the children currently in foster homes adopted into loveing homes.
“Women have lots of choices.” Yes a the law says that an abortion is one of them.
Joao do Carmo:
You go back and forth on yourself. I am not making an argument against abortion based on any religion whatsoever. I addressed “mom’s” error about God, because that was the basis of HER argument. You argue about birth control and abstention in relation to a person’s soul? I never mentioned anything about souls, you did. If a religion is against birth control, I can pretty much assure you they are also against abortion! So that point you made is pointless. And abstention”I can’t enjoy intimacy with my wife for fear of my soul?” WHAT? First of all, it is the woman choosing abstention (HER body, HER right to choose, remember?). Secondly, it has nothing to do with your “soul.” It has to do with common sense and basic human rights..don’t create a life just to destroy it, and once it is a life, it is entitled to the basic human right of LIFE.
Adoption, again WHAT? Adopt domestically or internationally, what difference does it make? Foster homes, yes, if parents rights are terminated, they should be adoptable. Children in those situations would have been further ahead if mom/dad had given up for adoption at birth, they stand a better chance of being adopted as babies. Although, abortion advocates would argue, I suppose that aborting them and not even letting them have life would be more suitable. So why are there laws against killing babies, toddlers, teens? Why take a newborn, crack-addicted baby from mom and give a new home/new life through adoption? Law says that prior to that birth it would have been okay to terminate that life.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article Three: “Everyone has the right to LIFE, liberty and security of person.” Just say that an unborn baby is not a “person” and that does not apply. Just say that Jews are not “people” and it is justified to terminate them. Introduce arbitrary and subjective phrases like “quality of life” and terminating life becomes acceptable. It’s all a semantic game to justify the unjustifiable.
“LIFE CHAIN is a peaceful and prayerful public witness of pro-life individuals standing for 90 minutes praying for our nation and for an end to abortion. It is a visual statement of solidarity by the Christian community that abortion kills children and that the Church supports the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception until natural death.”
Are these your words? Your 26th word in you original post or the 6th word in the portion I pasted; refers to a religious activity. You first part of your post describes a religious demonstration to abortion. It has nothing to do with “mother of three’s” post. You brought religion into your diatribe.
And again it the right of the mother to choose or not as she sees fit; as determine by her convictions. Notice nowhere do I mention YOU or your convictions. Stop hauling the women of the US back to the 20’s to become incubator for you.
Sorry, that previous post was by me!
Wow, why so many haters? This was a reverent and somber demonstration that has occurred nationally for 26 years. “LIFE CHAIN is a peaceful and prayerful public witness of pro-life individuals standing for 90 minutes praying for our nation and for an end to abortion. It is a visual statement of solidarity by the Christian community that abortion kills children and that the Church supports the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception until natural death.”
And “mom of three” you are mistaken. Life is sacred to God from conception. The abortion debate is not a religious one, it is a an issue of basic human rights. Sadly, the most dangerous place in the world for children to live, is in the womb. The basic human rights of the unborn are trumped by the rights of the mother. The “viability” argument is empty. NO baby is viable without a caretaker. And many babies are “viable” at very early stages in pregnancy, thanks to modern medicine.
For anyone that says “a woman has a right to choose” I would ask: Why wasn’t birth control CHOSEN? Why wasn’t abstention CHOSEN? Why wasn’t adoption CHOSEN? Women have lots of choices. The choice to kill should not be one of them.
Actually, God knew you BEFORE you were formed in the womb. The real news is that there are 40-50 million women out there who have had an abortion and are wounded spiritually. They need the forgiveness that only Christ can provide through confession and reconciliation. Victims of abortion alive today often justify their actions through a continued assault on the unborn human life others carry. Seek forgiveness instead and encourage others to a lifetime of freedom instead of bonds of guilt.
Excellent post…very well said.
Amen. Christ go with you and us all.
Amen!
Truth is a fetus isn’t even anything more than a lump of tissue until 6 months or longer. Can’t even talk or breath on its owen. And God doesn’t recognize it as a real person with a soul anyway. So what is the big deal of an abortin.
God told you this?
mom of three – you must have missed the basics of biology (& spelling) when you dropped out of school.
The big deal with “abortin” is that it’s simply the killing of a baby.
What a woman does with her body is her business. These people need to go home and take care of their own business.
So anything goes LV? Do realize what choosing between the life in your body that you have created being ripped out. Do you realize how many women are out there wondering what could have been 5-10-20 years later, what that child would be like.
Do you spose that could be a little tramatic. At the same time the people that say its ok to do act like it is as easy as throwing away a piece of trash. It is nothing like it.
@Anonymous-what a dumb A## thing to say. I never said anything like that at all. What I said was it is the woman’s business what SHE does with her body and no one else’s. How would you like it if we told you you couldn’t get a flu shot because you are one sex or the other or any other health issue that come along. You holy than thou people make me want to puke.
A woman’s right is a woman’s right. Get lost protestors! They don’t even perform abortions there!
Responsibility should come before rights. Today women know how to keep from getting pregnant, they don’t even need the option of killing a baby.
If that is where they were making a statement with their demonstration, it appears to me they were getting their message out to the rest of us.
No harm in that is there? No need to get lost.
Good!