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Op-ed: The NRA has won

By Doyle McManus, Los Angeles Times –

Politicians haven’t always been allergic to gun control, not even Republicans.

In 1968, after the assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Congress — on a bipartisan vote — outlawed guns sales to felons and the mentally ill. In 1993, when Congress passed the Brady bill requiring background checks for gun purchasers, former President Reagan, who narrowly escaped assassination in 1981, was among its supporters.

In 1994, when Congress passed a ban on assault weapons, 10 Republican senators supported the provision. And as recently as 2002, when Mitt Romney ran for governor of Massachusetts, he declared himself strongly in favor of “tough gun laws.”

“I believe they protect us and provide for our safety,” Romney said. Two years later he signed a state-level assault weapons ban that remains in force.

But that was a decade ago. This week, days after a gunman with an assault rifle killed 12 moviegoers in a Colorado theater, neither Romney nor President Obama raised the now-radical notion of reviving the federal assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. Even the ban’s principal author, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., admitted that it was a lost cause for now.

Feinstein blamed the National Rifle Association and other gun rights groups for blocking new laws. “They pour a lot of money (into election campaigns), and some people lost office after they voted for the legislation before,” she said.

But powerful lobbies and callow politicians aren’t the only impediments to stricter gun laws. Over the last two decades, public support for them has collapsed. In 1990, before the assault weapons ban, a Gallup poll found that 78 percent of Americans favored stricter regulation of guns. But that number has declined steadily ever since. Last year, Gallup asked the same question, and only 43 percent of those polled said they favored stricter gun laws.

The public doesn’t agree with the NRA that gun laws should be eased further — only 11 percent hold that view, according to Gallup. But on the core issue — the right to gun ownership with only minimal government oversight — the NRA has won the debate.

Social scientists have differing opinions about why public opinion has shifted so remarkably, but one likely explanation is that crime is down. Twenty years ago, when murder rates were high, sponsors of gun control legislation billed it as a way to help get guns off the street and reduce the murder rate. It’s not clear that gun control got many firearms off the street, but violent crime has declined sharply and, with it, some of the impetus for more laws.

Another probable reason for the shift is a precipitous drop in citizens’ confidence in the federal government. In 2011, Gallup found that only 43 percent of Americans said they trusted the federal government to handle domestic problems, the lowest ever recorded; 49 percent said they considered the federal government “an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens,” the highest ever recorded. When people are that suspicious of federal power, they’re wary of federal gun laws too.

Political polarization is also a factor. Gone are the days when the two parties could find middle ground on gun control. Pew Research Center polls found that from 2007 to 2012, the percentage of Americans who believed that controlling guns was more important than protecting gun rights fell from 59 percent to 45 percent. But most of that change occurred among Republicans; only five years ago, the GOP was closely divided on the issue, but now only about one-fourth of Republican voters call gun control a higher priority than gun rights. Among Democrats, by contrast, about two-thirds want gun control, and their views have hardly budged in 20 years.

That shift hasn’t been lost on the NRA. In an earlier day, the group made its mark by attacking vulnerable Democrats, such as then-House Speaker Tom Foley, who lost his seat in eastern Washington state after helping pass the assault weapons ban in 1994, and even presidential candidate Al Gore, who lost his native Tennessee in 2000.

But more recently, the NRA has focused on keeping Republicans in line, if only because there are so few conservative Democrats left to go after. Over the last two decades, Federal Election Commission records show that the NRA has spent almost $49 million on independent campaign expenditures, second only to the Service Employees International Union. And that kind of spending sends a message.

The NRA attacked Sen. Richard G. Lugar, R-Ind., in his primary campaign this year, accusing him of “hostility toward our right to keep and bear arms” based on his support for the assault weapons ban. Lugar lost to a more conservative “tea party” candidate who won the NRA’s endorsement.

Like other Republicans, Romney has taken note of the NRA’s muscle. The presumptive Republican nominee signed his state-level assault weapons ban in 2004, but as soon as he began contemplating a run for president, he moved to the right. Romney quietly joined the NRA in 2006 and campaigned for the Republican nomination in 2008 as an unbending supporter of gun owners’ rights, a position blemished only by his awkward statement that he was merely an occasional hunter, and then for “varmints.”

“I do not support any new legislation,” Romney said that year. This year, the issue has hardly come up.

That absence of debate is the best evidence that the NRA has won the argument, at least for now. Obama represents a party whose voters are, on this issue, dissenters from the American majority. Most Democrats, especially urban Democrats, say they still want tougher gun laws, such as a renewed assault weapons ban that would outlaw the 100-round magazine that James Holmes allegedly used to kill the moviegoers in Colorado. But Obama wants to carry independent voters too, and he can read the polls.

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It will never go away, but our president has decided not to sign it at this time.

It is still something we need to watch very carefully. They will keep trying to take away our rights all the time. They try, there’s to much opposition, they back off. Then they will try again.

correct – Obama is playing possum until after the election – BEWARE

The sheeple will never understand the meaning of tryanny, or how to defend against it. Baaaaaaa

if everyone was forced to carry a gun or keep one in their house. those crazy/stupid people would think twice before they thought of using their’s. ever think of that?

Where’s the safety on a pit bull?

gramma = confused

I’d rather be a “Mindless gun totin zombie” then a “sheeple” led around by a nose ring under the control of a socialist government or in danger from criminals who will not obay gun laws anyway.

So, you think law enforcement or the government is going to protect you 24/7? Your terribly wrong if you think that!

If you choose not to own a gun and give up your rights, you do so! Kindly do not give away “MY” rights or those of others who choose to use our 2nd ammendmant rights and protect ourselves.

Oh, by the way. Studies are great. Ask the right questions of the right people and you get the answer you are looking for!

Figures don’t lie, but any liar can figure. how is it that the places with the most restrictive gun laws are also plagued by gun related crime? Hello Chicago…

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938
and from 1939 to 1945,
a total of 13 million Jews and others
who were unable to defend themselves
were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952,
20 million political dissidents,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated
——————————

Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981,
100,000 Mayan Indians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
—- ————- ————-

Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Chicago and Washington DC have the strictest gun control in the country.

Hmm, well chicago has a VIOLENT crime .16 PER 1000. In the WHOLE US it is .05 PER 1000. Wow. Your chances of becoming a vicitm there are 1 in 94. It has an overall crime index of 6. Sheoot! 6! The safest is 100. Damn near rock bottom ZERO Happyguy.

Let’s look at Washington DC. Well HELL! I didn’t realize THIS…it gets a 6 too!!! Yahooo! You get a 1 in 75 chance of becoming a vicitm there. Right there in the President’s back yard fellers!

The data speaks for itself. You can’t argue with data. Your arguement holds as much water as a strainer. You take away guns. Good people can’t protect themselves and the bad guys still have them. If you think it’ll be different than it already is in Chicago and D.C., you should try drinking less cause you are obviously drunk. It’s the only way i can figure you can sit there and argue against raw data.

This data shows that citizens that are allowed to protect themselves don’t become a statistic. PERIOD.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime/

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/dc/washington/crime/

If a Republican doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a Democrat doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
And while we’re at it……

If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Republican doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Democrats demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping
for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A Democrat demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a Republican reads this, he’ll get a good laugh.
A Democrat will become “offended”.

Sound familiar?

BAAAAAAAAAAA.

GOOD FOR THE NRA

I have never seen a gun murder people before. I don’t know how a gun could pull it’s own trigger.

Your fork made you fat Caradine.

That fork DEFINITELY put cellulose on your ass. All these pork freaks will never figure that out.

So do knives, cars, ball bats. Do you wan’t to ban all those to?

Or do we start dealing with the people (not what they use) that commit these crimes?

A gun is an inanimate object that can do nothing on it’s own. The person using it is responsible for the act’s commited with it. No different then any other thing that can be used as a weapon.

Keep giving your rights away, soon you will have none left and the rest of us will have no defense left.

I swear Patriot was the only person who read this after I posted it on the 27th. Guns DO save lives. The main stream media just don’t want you to know about it when it happens. I haven’t heard or read about this one single other place.

A man with a gun stopped a stabbing rampage in Utah by pulling a gun on the man and threatening to shoot him if he didn’t drop his weapon. People tackled him and held him until police arrived.
http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/bios/story/conceal-and-carry-stabbing-salt-lake-city-smiths/NDNrL1gxeE2rsRhrWCM9dQ.cspx

Years ago I happen to be at the right place at the right time, 3 times I walked in on an armed robbery and I was armed and was able to use my weapon to stop it. If I wasn’t armed I would have ended up being a statistic just like the rest of them. You ask 100 people that hate guns and you will get the stats that you want and you can use those stats to shove down my throat all you want but it don’t mean squat to me. I’ve been there and I know whats going on so you can take your lies and keep them and I will keep my guns and protect my family and if it comes down to it I will protect your family too.

This is not a game. The NRA speaks for a great deal of people who beleive we should maintain our rights under the 2nd amendmant.

The NRA also helped stop (if only temporarily) our politicians working with the UN to bring UN troops into our country to take away our guns (to forcefully remove them if needed). Do you wan’t politicians that will allow foreign soldiers to attack US citizens and dictacte how we live in our free (getting less free all the time) country? I sure don’t.

The NRA has done a fine job of protecting our rights. The right to own firearms and the right to protect ones self.

The shooting in Colorado is sad. The shooter did not use “Assault Weapons”, he did not have fully atuomatic firearms. Very few people outside of the military or law enforcement have assault weapons. There are a few who will spend the large sum of money to own them, but not many. Yes he had a high capacity magazine, which frankly makes little difference. You see, with a bit of practice magazine changes are very fast. Magazine capapcity would not have stopped that tragedy.

People think the country would be safer if there were no guns, the Colorado incident would not have happened if this nut case did not have access to a gun. Plain and simple, he would have used something else. Explosives, chemicals or many other things that would have been available to him to kill large numbers of people. Many far more deadly then a firearm.

So, thank you NRA for the diligant work you do in helping us be a safer country.

I beleive in gun rights but if you beleive that UN troops were coming in this country you are a fear mongering nut job!

Haven’t read much about the UN ATT treaty have you?

And you trust the UN?

I’m no fear monger, but I certainly know what the UN can do and our so called president wan’ts to get in bed with them!

Yeah, trust the UN, there here to help you! Wake up folks, the UN has never been a true friend to anyone, they wan’t the control, don’t give it to them. Sound crazy, look at any country they have “helped”. Most any supplies the UN delivers to foriegn countries winds up on the black market.

You don’t think our troops are going to dissarm there fellow countryman do you? So who is going to enforce such a treaty?

HA HA HA. You don’t really believe that do you? Come on. You even have access to a computer. Check something other than the right-wing nutzo sites.

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