Who said you can’t have fun in a small town?
In the center ring of this three ring circus is George Barlas, owner and operator of Chop/Eleven restaurant & lounge. At issue with police are the man hours consumed by addressing trouble calls “outside” of the above mentioned establishment. The key word here is “outside”.
The police have confirmed that 284 such calls were attributed to Wal-Mart west of the city in a 12 month period. While there is a myriad of reasons the police were called to the retail giant, it is the cost related to man hours that seems to concern both Brent Trout and the good Captain and others at the MCPD. It is entirely OK that both these gentlemen can deal with 15 times more such calls to the west side to preform duties commiserate with services paid for with our tax dollars, but have difficulties tolerating 19 calls that fall under the exact same purview. And a much longer drive from headquarters, I’d add.
In addition there is a bar/restaurant not far from there that has 63 calls to their establishment during an 18 month period. That adds up to over double the amount of calls to Eleven Lounge.
Now look up “Double Standard.”
Peter Children
I believe this city has problems, But eleven isn’t the problem, Its out side, Eleven bans people that cause probs there, I think George should hire an off duty police officer to stand out side, Because this place is nice..
Am I the only person that realizes clean up crew is Peter Lagios? Pretty hiprocritical, he says he hates NIT, because he has been BANNED, yet he continues to post.
I am of the opinion the city council does not want an establishment of [insert dog whistle term for blacks] anywhere near their cultural crescent. They wouldn’t want their(our) huge investment in downtown sullied by the less desirable.
With that being said I’ve been to Eleven a couple of times and it truly is a cesspit, nothing of value would be lost if it was shut down
Look…..there are license holders with more calls and also with less, that is the nature of the beast. The point is how can the city justify this sort of action when in effect its their job description….its what they do, its what we pay taxes for. Does anyone know if this sort of program has been implemented in other cities of like size?
I can easily see it as a deterrent to community filth if someone does not lean up their property or has rotting garbage that poses a health risk….bur bars, taverns and other such places that dispense liquor beer & wine are going to have such incidences due to the nature of their product. There should be a level playing field is all I am saying and…
Sounds like people are wanting a la carte’ services for the police. Should people pay for each call as they do for an ambulance ride? Something to think about. Of course the poor would have no representation, and a “Cop-aid” program would need to develop, thereby stigmatizing the recipients such as done with Medic-aid.
What establishment?
And your right never saw that part. I was trying to figure out how you could compare, eleven to Walmart. How many time were the police called to the northwestern? That would have been a better comparison.
Savage: Apparently you only see what you want to see. I stated there was another bar in town with 64 trouble calls in a 18 month period. Chop was 19 over 12 months. On a “per month” basis the other license holder had an average of 3.5 calls a month to Chop’s 1.5. What were you saying about cutting it in half? You can cut this anyway you want, the figures just don’t add up to equal treatment.
compare Eleven to any other establishment that serves alchohol, and I bet the calls are cut in half.
Remember, this opinion is that of a former aluminum siding salesman. You don’t have to agree with it, but he’s still entitled to it.
The comparison of Eleven to Wally World is an insane argument/analogy. I would have rather seen you examine Elevens history relative to other places that serve alcohol and point out inconsistencies. You hinted at that in your last paragraph but came way short of a convincing slam dunk. Just my opinion.
What a surprise. Peter sticking up for a fellow Greek and Matt letting him stick up for a big advertiser.Will the wonders ever cease. I know of several altercations that started in the bar and instead of breaking them up they,the bouncers,just pushed them out the door.
Put up a Confederate flag hire some big Harley rider’s that has got baseball bats in there hands and some you know what’s in they’re boots. Like to see what them D-boys does then. A lot of ways to skin them alley Katz.
Daycare providers make more money than some teachers. Teachers are so disrespected. They deal with rotten kids, and rotten parents. Not all kids are rotten, but the ones that are upset the entire classroom, forcing teachers to become babysitters. As far as working only nine months, that’s not even close. Summer break isn’t 3 months. Some teachers work in summer school, they have continuing education, and other school duties on the summer. Teachers need to be praised in today’s society.
Alley Katz was closed. There was no tabling. But, it was a north end bar NOT owned by the Barlas family. Seems the city is dragging their feet on this issue because the owners are one of their elitists. This bar is a problem. Fights, over serving patrons, and drugs.
aint this why we have cops?
You have no idea what your even talking about. You are just trying find a way to bitch about the city. Walmart has more people through their doors in a hour than eleven has in a month. You are trying to compare the two?
Walmart catchs the crooks and calls the police, to press charges. Eleven has the fights start inside and sends them outside so they become a problem for the police.
LVS: to answer your concerns; no merchant can police the outside of their property nor should they be expected to. That is what property tax covers. Next question would be….where does the “outside” begin and end? There is no guessing here, I pointed out the differences under the same ordnance. Trout and the police captain said they were only concerned with “man hours.” Are city services like health insurance where only certain procedures are covered?
Were you drinking when you wrote this?
Interesting article. My concern with the eleven club is not the number of calls but, the type of calls. Public disturbance and fights as well as drug calls. The issue is if they shut it down they will just move to another place until tat is shout down too.