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NRA: Democrats used Newtown ‘opportunity’ to push gun control

gunHOUSTON, May 4 (UPI) — National Rifle Association members at the group’s national convention in Houston are celebrating legislative victories and taking aim at gun control advocates.

Convention speakers Friday charged President Barack Obama and other Democrats were using the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in Newtown, Conn., to push for tougher gun laws, CNN reported.

Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action characterized Obama and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg as opportunists, and said NRA members “want to prevent Newtown, not take advantage of it.”

“While we pray for God to comfort those suffering unimaginable pain,” he said, “they rush to microphones and cameras, gather in war rooms on Capitol Hill and scheme about how to use that suffering to push their political agenda.”

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin charged Obama had used the “politics of emotion” by having Newtown families appear at political events.

The widow of slain former military sniper Chris Kyle made a surprise appearance at the convention, addressing the death of her husband at a gun range by a Marine reservist who had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Implying his death was not cause for more gun restrictions, Taya Kyle said, “we know all too well there will always be evil, but that evil shouldn’t take away our freedoms. In fact, the only way to take away evil is by taking advantage of those freedoms.”

Copyright 2013 United Press International, Inc. (UPI).

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You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone breaks into your home the first two things you’re going to do are: 1) Call someone with a gun. 2) Pray they get there in time.

@ stupid…..

Please ENLIGHTEN ME…how does a more strict law put in place in lieu of an already existing law/s that don’t get enforced and criminals by pure definition don’t abide by anyway help deter a criminal act? Seriously, I will not name call you on this one…simply put, answer how that makes any sort of sense. Really.

Go ahead…I’m waiting for my simple mind to be blown away by enlightenment by the glory of this logic.

Another question, have you ACTUALLY read the list of guns they put in this ban and secondly do you know anything about those guns? Do you realize a Ruger 10/22 is on that list. I can assure you, that’s an assault weapon if I ever saw one (sarcasm). Did you see the picture the administration put out of Obama shooting a shotgun during one of his many skeet shoot events (more sarcasm)? Here is the epitome of intelligence on that one…in their grand effort to fool the sheeple with their lies of being gun friendly, they failed to realize that the little muzzle break on the end of that very shotgun that Obama is shooting in that picture would put that very shotgun on the ban list for being…guess what….here it comes…..AN ASSAULT WEAPON. All I have to say is….HERE’S YOUR SIGN.

Hmm, makes you kinda wonder about Obama’s “common sense” he’s always preaching about.

If you’re going to lie…at least be good at it.

Remember….stupid isn’t a choice, usually it’s inherited.

Kids don’t kill people silly, everyone knows knives do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)

Plus, murder by gun is down 39% from 1993 until 2011. Overall gun violence is down 69% during that time. People think gun violence has risen, but that is NOT true!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GUN_VIOLENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-05-07-19-27-18

Obama and his PR (main stream news) has the public convinced crime is up. Crime is only up in Chicago where guns are banned.

How typical. If you don’t have a valid reply, start throwing accusations around. Attack the person who brought facts to the debate. It proves over and over and over how uneducated and unteachable some of you are. I actually sort of pity Maybe, because I think he’s genuinely frightened, and those who have nothing but infantile remarks are to blame.

LVStd, you are truly one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered. And that’s saying something.

If you were to see some dark clouds in the sky you would think, it might rain. If you saw lightning in the sky with the dark clouds you would say yes it is going to rain. I see the signs, nobody had to tell me anything, I can see it myself. I am not frightened, I don’t like what I see but it was bound ro happen sooner or later. Stupid, you can critizise me all you want, even make fun of me. I can see the lightning and hear the thunder so I know whats coming. You can bury your head in the sand but that won’t stop the rain.

I’m not making fun of you, Maybe, I believe you are genuinely frightened and that you sincerely believe the things you say. I wish you didn’t, because so much of it is right wing lies, but I can’t tell you what to believe.

What I cannot abide is someone like LVS who spends his days calling people names instead of actually discussing the topics Matt presents here on this site.

Like I said before, I am not frightened but I do believe it will happen. It isn’t lies it is fact, it will happen. I don’t want it to happen but I will be ready whe it does. I don’t feel sorry vor those people that are caught by suprise because they have been warned. As thick headed as I am and I can see the light then you have no excuse.

@stinksofstupd-I know a better place for you to stick your stupd head and it’s not in the sand. If you don’t like me I am doing something right because I want nothing to do with a narrow minded idiot like you. You want me to back off you but look what you post.

@stinksofstupd-How typical of a small minded person like you to make a comment about about what a terrible person I am. Just because I don’t agree with your communist ideals. You just can’t stand the truth. I hate people like you that shoot off their mouths all the time. I have saved more people’s jobs and put more people to work than a pea brain like you can count. Hopefully you will never come back on here again. Copy and paste just won’t make it.

If you would assure me that you would understand the answer then I would proceed to enlighten you, but this situation would only serve as a podium for you to further embarace yourself. Spend your time educating yourself in a classroom setting. Not this public forum.

I see. In other words, you don’t have an answer. You’re just screaming to hear yourselves scream.

Exactly what I thought.

Please enlighten me. How are tougher gun laws and restrictions equal to disarming the public? How does banning one certain type weapon make the other 5 zillion types less shooty? What are you people so afraid of?

DO NOT use any of the crazy people talk like “hitler”, “government dictatorship” or any of the other nutty stuff that’s out there.

Tell me in common sense, Iowan to Iowan words. Why can’t they ban some of the more dangerous weapons and have stronger laws? Why?

Hey stupid, in your own words what does SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED mean. You say you are pretty smart, please explain to me what the 2nd amendment means.

See, Maybe, that’s EXACTLY what I asked you NOT to do. I want to know why banning dangerous weapons or having stronger laws would infringe anything, or harm your ability to own guns.

Explain that one, if you can. Not the “because of the shall not infringe” crap. That’s deflection.

Answer MY question.

you just don’t frikken get it do you stupid. The 2nd amendment says MY RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. MY right and your right to do whatever the hell you want to but MY right SHALL NOT be infringed. Arms means weapons of any type, I am not talking about for what reason, I am talking about MY RIGHTS. Any law weither it is a ban or a back ground check IS an infringement.

It also appears that you are too chicken s**T to answer my question, what does SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED mean to you. I am sorry if I called you a name but your ignorance is starting to piss me off. The words are right in front of you, why are you so blind?

Maybe, it’s not that sicka is blind. He/she sees the world from a different point of view. You know, the “glass half full” point of view. You wouldn’t know anything about that. Too bad.

I am a glass half full myself. I can also see the writings in front of me and I can understand what they say.

Wow, Maybe! I thought we were past all that! I guess not!

I’m not refusing to answer YOUR question, you’re refusing to answer MINE. I’m the one who asked the question, remember? Does that mean you’re too chicken to answer mine?

There is no talk about infringing on yours, or anybody else’s right. I don’t know where you get that crap. This is about banning certain high powered weapons and enacting stricter laws.

Neither of those things would infringe upon your rights. So answer me, Maybe. What is wrong with banning some especially dangerous weapons and enacting stricter laws? You’d still get to keep your guns. Your rights haven’t been infringed upon.

So why not?

And just to clarify, Maybe, infringe means to encroach, to trespass upon your right to bear arms. Nobody is trying to do that. They are trying to limit the TYPES of arms you can bear. You are still able to bear all the arms you can stand.

Now answer me.

The Oxford Dictionary states that infringe means to limit. Any laws regarding gun control it limiting MY rights according to the 2nd amendment. I refuse to answer your question because if I did that would sound as if I am willing to give up a small part of my rights and I am not willing. According to the 2nd amendment, if I have the means I can own a sniper rifle, a anti tank weapon, a tank, a fighter jet if I want. Of course I cannot afford any of those. Anything that the military has I can own but over the years the government has chipped away at our rights, for our own good, and now we don’t even miss those rights that were taken away. What is next? I can see our 1st and 4th amendments being chipped at right now and the pentagon, under pressure, backed away from calling Christians terrorists and threaten to courts martial them, so our religious freedom is being chipped away, what is next? When will it be enough, when will we say OK that’s enough I am going to stand my ground.

maybe, In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment “codified a pre-existing right” and that it “protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home”[9][10] but also stated that “the right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”. They also clarified that many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession listed by the Court are consistent with the Second Amendment

This means the ownership of weapons by law is “WELL REGULATED” just as the second amendment states. You do not nor should you have the right to own a “a anti tank weapon, a tank, a fighter jet”. You my friend are way off base in your thinking.

The judges now days leave alot to be desired. The voters of iowa said no to same sex marriage yet 3 judges decided to say yes. The supreme court judges all have an agenda which is to appease basically their party. You can say all you want but the wording of the 2nd amendment is pretty self explanetory.

@maybe-don’t you know who Dave is?? Can’t you tell by the writing style. You can never win a debate with “Dave” because she doesn’t know the difference.

Ok, there is 1 thimg that I know. Over the years liberals have changed to become the hand of satan. Everything they do is so subtle that it can acually makes sense but is totally against the word of God. Someone said last week that a microbe on mars IS life yet a 6 week old fetus on earth IS NOT life. What have we become when life means nothing? We are wondering why there is so much crime and death, it’s because we have turned our backs on God and one day we will pay the price.

@maybe-OK, I agree with what you said. I believe that liberals are EVIL period. They are everything that is wrong with our government and our world. The socialist have taken over our schools and we let them get away with it. They are teaching our kids their way of thinking and it must stop. These people believe in taking and giving nothing back and promote welfare and free immigration as a way to get votes to bring in more of their agenda. Of course those people will vote for them. Would you vote against the hand that feeds you. Of course it is our money they are giving away to get their votes. Republicans had better wake up and wake up fast.

@LVS-You are a Jerk!

LVS, liberals are “evil”? So, you think it’s evil to want everyone to be treated equally? It’s evil to actually care about our fellow citizens? There’s no way I’m going to get through to you, so I guess all I can do is remind you to take your medication. Apparently, you’ve skipped a few days.

@stupd-thanks for posting under a different name again.

@just or stupd-You don’t care about other people because if you did you would be concerned that they are no longer self reliant and have to depend on the government for everything they have. All you people care about is winning the next election and you don’t care what you have to do to do it. Be aware, there are those in the country that are getting very fed up with your crap. You people are EVIL. There, I said it again and maybe this tome you can understand it.

LVS is a Jerk & he knows It!

Oh oh, LVStd! Yet another poster is sick of your hatred! As much as you wish that I had multiple names, I don’t. Ask Matt! Sorry!

Oh, the tangled web we weave! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

“Jerk” is way too kind a word for LVS. Can’t you do better?

More hysteria from Dave,

A tank, or anti tank weapon, or fighter jet is not gun!

Man you get things screwed up and go off the deep end.

Don’t feed the troll.

1: ignore sickastupd posts
2: hide sickastupd threads

Why ban big magazines? They are more likely to jam than smaller magazines, which take 3 seconds to change. Bigger is not always better if you’re trying to kill a bunch of people. The only difference between military-looking guns and hunting guns is the handle and the color. The people calling for these changes are NOT familiar with firearms. And Obama calling the gun used in Sandy Hook a fully-automatic weapon takes the cake!

he will say whatever he has to, to get his agenda passed, even if it is a lie.

Please ENLIGHTEN ME…how does a more strict law put in place in lieu of an already existing law/s that don’t get enforced and criminals by pure definition don’t abide by anyway help deter a criminal act? Seriously, I will not name call you on this one…simply put, answer how that makes any sort of sense. Really.

Go ahead…I’m waiting for my simple mind to be blown away by enlightenment by the glory of this logic.

Another question, have you ACTUALLY read the list of guns they put in this ban and secondly do you know anything about those guns? Do you realize a Ruger 10/22 is on that list. I can assure you, that’s an assault weapon if I ever saw one (sarcasm). Did you see the picture the administration put out of Obama shooting a shotgun during one of his many skeet shoot events (more sarcasm)? Here is the epitome of intelligence on that one…in their grand effort to fool the sheeple with their lies of being gun friendly, they failed to realize that the little muzzle break on the end of that very shotgun that Obama is shooting in that picture would put that very shotgun on the ban list for being…guess what….here it comes…..AN ASSAULT WEAPON. All I have to say is….HERE’S YOUR SIGN.

Hmm, makes you kinda wonder about Obama’s “common sense” he’s always preaching about.

If you’re going to lie…at least be good at it.

Typical democrats, if you can’t win by common sense, win by instilling fear or extortion. Wouldn’t that make them the mafia or organized crime?

The government should be pushing for an anti-bullying movement and mental health evaluations and care centers instead of gun control. All the gun violence is strictly helping The Left’s agenda of disarming the public, Step 1. The more gun violence there is, the more it helps their agenda. The Left’s violent movies and video games have helped set this scenario up and they make sure it continues by shouting “Freedom of Speech”. They are making sure that the First Amendment will take down the Second Amendment. If the liberal writers, producers, directors, and actors in Hollywood really gave a damn about violence, they would stop producing movies, TV shows, and video games that promote violence and give impressionable people ideas about how to get revenge for every perceived slight in their lives. They would go back to movies about heroes, love, overcoming struggles, and themes with positive messages that would still sell and make them money. But that would not advance their agenda of disarming America. Let’s put the blame where it really lies, not on a piece of metal, whether it be a knife or a gun.

We want mandatory safety courses for people, not guns. We want more thorough background checks of people, not guns. We want stricter negligence penalties imposed on people, not their guns.

If you are stupid enough to think that activists are pissed at guns, then you are to stupid to own one.

There is some powerful truth in Dave’s words, Katie.

Dave, thanks. You said it better than I’ve heard anyone else say it.

I don’t disagree with mandatory safety classes. I was very disappointed with Iowa for passing the concealed carry law without the safety class provision. There are already background checks in place. Criminals don’t buy their guns at gun shows or stores. They steal them, buy them on the black market, or force someone else to buy them for them. Duh! And I don’t disagree with stricter negligence penalties for parents whose children get hold of unsecured weapons and injure or kill others. I think their guns or kids should be taken away because they have proven themselves irresponsible. We already have enough laws in place to handle this situation other than mandatory safety and shooting courses. Just enforce them!

Dave, your response is hysterical.

Katie has a better approach than you.

A back-ground check, mental health check, ect. lasts about 5 minutes. I have been around many people with guns. They can be perfectly normal one minute and the next, plumb crazy.

Over the last 50 years our world has become so permissive and humanistic that the value of human life just don’t rank up there anymore.

All the laws in the world you want to pass won’t stop the current trend. Maybe, just maybe, if enough of these murders would be put to death and swiftly we could see a change of attitude.

Pandora is out of the box!

Who would have thought that this government would do something that, just to make more laws that infringe on our freedoms.

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