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Obama announces executive actions to curb gun violence

President Obama announces executive actions on Tuesday, January 5, 2016
President Obama announces executive actions on Tuesday, January 5, 2016

WASHINGTON, D.C. – President Barack Obama, surrounded by victims of gun violence, is speaking today about executive actions he plans to take to reduce gun violence.

Obama quoted several conservative Presidents and lawmakers, including Ronald Reagan, in announcing comprehensive background checks and limits on buying guns over the internet, among other actions. He said the gun lobby is holding Congress hostage, “but it can’t hold America hostage”.

“People are dying, and the constant excuses for inaction will no longer do, no longer suffice. That’s why we’re here today. Not to debate the last mass shooting, but to do something to try and prevent the next one. To prove that the vast majority of Americans, even if our voices aren’t always the loudest or most extreme, care enough about a little boy like Daniel to come together and take commonsense steps to save lives and protect more of our children,” President Obama said.

Vice President Biden chimed in, saying “Enough has been enough for some time now. Proud of today’s steps to Stop Gun Violence. Congress, we’ve forged consensus before. Finish this.”

Will his actions work, or are they unconstitutional?

 

 

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FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer

Gun violence has taken a heartbreaking toll on too many communities across the country.  Over the past decade in America, more than 100,000 people have been killed as a result of gun violence—and millions more have been the victim of assaults, robberies, and other crimes involving a gun.  Many of these crimes were committed by people who never should have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.  Over the same period, hundreds of thousands of other people in our communities committed suicide with a gun and nearly half a million people suffered other gun injuries.  Hundreds of law enforcement officers have been shot to death protecting their communities.  And too many children are killed or injured by firearms every year, often by accident.  The vast majority of Americans—including the vast majority of gun owners—believe we must take sensible steps to address these horrible tragedies.

The President and Vice President are committed to using every tool at the Administration’s disposal to reduce gun violence.  Some of the gaps in our country’s gun laws can only be fixed through legislation, which is why the President continues to call on Congress to pass the kind of commonsense gun safety reforms supported by a majority of the American people.  And while Congress has repeatedly failed to take action and pass laws that would expand background checks and reduce gun violence, today, building on the significant steps that have already been taken over the past several years, the Administration is announcing a series of commonsense executive actions designed to:

  1.       Keep guns out of the wrong hands through background checks.
  •          The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is making clear that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet:  If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks.
  •          ATF is finalizing a rule to require background checks for people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust, corporation, or other legal entity.
  •          Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch has sent a letter to States highlighting the importance of receiving complete criminal history records and criminal dispositions, information on persons disqualified because of a mental illness, and qualifying crimes of domestic violence.
  •          The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is overhauling the background check system to make it more effective and efficient.  The envisioned improvements include processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and improving notification of local authorities when certain prohibited persons unlawfully attempt to buy a gun.  The FBI will hire more than 230 additional examiners and other staff to help process these background checks.

2.      Make our communities safer from gun violence.

  •          The Attorney General convened a call with U.S. Attorneys around the country to direct federal prosecutors to continue to focus on smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws.
  •          The President’s FY2017 budget will include funding for 200 new ATF agents and investigators to help enforce our gun laws.
  •          ATF has established an Internet Investigation Center to track illegal online firearms trafficking and is dedicating $4 million and additional personnel to enhance the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network.
  •          ATF is finalizing a rule to ensure that dealers who ship firearms notify law enforcement if their guns are lost or stolen in transit.
  •          The Attorney General issued a memo encouraging every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts.

3.      Increase mental health treatment and reporting to the background check system.

  •          The Administration is proposing a new $500 million investment to increase access to mental health care.
  •          The Social Security Administration has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to include information in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm for mental health reasons.
  •          The Department of Health and Human Services is finalizing a rule to remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information about people prohibited from possessing a gun for specific mental health reasons.

4.      Shape the future of gun safety technology.

  •          The President has directed the Departments of Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security to conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology.
  •          The President has also directed the departments to review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development to more broadly improve gun safety.

Congress should support the President’s request for resources for 200 new ATF agents and investigators to help enforce our gun laws, as well as a new $500 million investment to address mental health issues.

Because we all must do our part to keep our communities safe, the Administration is also calling on States and local governments to do all they can to keep guns out of the wrong hands and reduce gun violence.  It is also calling on private-sector leaders to follow the lead of other businesses that have taken voluntary steps to make it harder for dangerous individuals to get their hands on a gun.  In the coming weeks, the Administration will engage with manufacturers, retailers, and other private-sector leaders to explore what more they can do.

New Actions by the Federal Government

Keeping Guns Out of the Wrong Hands Through Background Checks

The most important thing we can do to prevent gun violence is to make sure those who would commit violent acts cannot get a firearm in the first place.  The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which was created by Congress to prevent guns from being sold to prohibited individuals, is a critical tool in achieving that goal.  According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the background check system has prevented more than 2 million guns from getting into the wrong hands.  We know that making the system more efficient, and ensuring that it has all appropriate records about prohibited purchasers, will help enhance public safety.  Today, the Administration is announcing the following executive actions to ensure that all gun dealers are licensed and run background checks, and to strengthen the background check system itself:

  •          Clarify that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet:  If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks.  Background checks have been shown to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but too many gun sales—particularly online and at gun shows—occur without basic background checks.  Today, the Administration took action to ensure that anyone who is “engaged in the business” of selling firearms is licensed and conducts background checks on their customers.  Consistent with court rulings on this issue, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has clarified the following principles:

 

  •    A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted.  For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet.  Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.
  •    Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators.  There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement.  But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.”  For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.
  •    There are criminal penalties for failing to comply with these requirements.  A person who willfully engages in the business of dealing in firearms without the required license is subject to criminal prosecution and can be sentenced up to five years in prison and fined up to $250,000.  Dealers are also subject to penalties for failing to conduct background checks before completing a sale.

 

  •          Require background checks for people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust or corporation.  The National Firearms Act imposes restrictions on sales of some of the most dangerous weapons, such as machine guns and sawed-off shotguns.  But because of outdated regulations, individuals have been able to avoid the background check requirement by applying to acquire these firearms and other items through trusts, corporations, and other legal entities.  In fact, the number of these applications has increased significantly over the years—from fewer than 900 applications in the year 2000 to more than 90,000 applications in 2014.  ATF is finalizing a rule that makes clear that people will no longer be able to avoid background checks by buying NFA guns and other items through a trust or corporation.
  •          Ensure States are providing records to the background check system, and work cooperatively with jurisdictions to improve reporting.  Congress has prohibited specific categories of people from buying guns—from convicted felons to users of illegal drugs to individuals convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence.  In the wake of the shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress also created incentives for States to make as many relevant records as possible accessible to NICS.  Over the past three years, States have increased the number of records they make accessible by nearly 70 percent.  To further encourage this reporting, the Attorney General has written a letter to States highlighting the importance of receiving complete criminal history records and criminal dispositions, information on persons disqualified for mental health reasons, and qualifying crimes of domestic violence.  The Administration will begin a new dialogue with States to ensure the background check system is as robust as possible, which is a public safety imperative.
  •          Make the background check system more efficient and effective.  In 2015, NICS received more than 22.2 million background check requests, an average of more than 63,000 per day.  By law, a gun dealer can complete a sale to a customer if the background check comes back clean or has taken more than three days to complete.  But features of the current system, which was built in the 1990s, are outdated.  The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will take the following steps to ensure NICS operates more efficiently and effectively to keep guns out of the wrong hands:

 

  •    FBI will hire more than 230 additional NICS examiners and other staff members to assist with processing mandatory background checks.  This new hiring will begin immediately and increase the existing workforce by 50 percent.  This will reduce the strain on the NICS system and improve its ability to identify dangerous people who are prohibited from buying a gun before the transfer of a firearm is completed.
  •    FBI has partnered with the U.S. Digital Service (USDS) to modernize NICS.   Although NICS has been routinely upgraded since its launch in 1998, the FBI is committed to making the system more efficient and effective, so that as many background checks as possible are fully processed within the three-day period before a dealer can legally sell a gun even if a background check is not complete.  The improvements envisioned by FBI and USDS include processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to improve overall response time and improving notification of local authorities when certain prohibited persons unlawfully attempt to purchase a firearm.

Making Our Communities Safer from Gun Violence

In order to improve public safety, we need to do more to ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws and make sure that criminals and other prohibited persons cannot get their hands on lost or stolen weapons.  The Administration is therefore taking the following actions:

  •          Ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws.  In a call earlier today, the Attorney General discussed the importance of today’s announcements and directed the Nation’s 93 U.S. Attorneys across the country to continue to focus their resources—as they have for the past several years under the Department’s Smart on Crime initiative—on the most impactful cases, including those targeting violent offenders, illegal firearms traffickers, and dangerous individuals who bypass the background check system to acquire weapons illegally.  During the call, the Attorney General also emphasized ongoing initiatives to assist communities in combating violent crime, including ATF’s efforts to target the “worst of the worst” gun crimes.  These efforts will also complement the following actions announced today:

 

  •    The President’s budget for FY2017 will include funding for 200 new ATF agents and investigators who can help enforce our gun laws, including the measures announced today.  Strategic and impactful enforcement will help take violent criminals off the street, deter other unlawful activity, and prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands.
  •    ATF is dedicating $4 million and additional personnel to enhance the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network (NIBIN).  The NIBIN database includes ballistic evidence that can be used by analysts and investigators to link violent crimes across jurisdictions and to track down shooters who prey on our communities.  In February 2016, ATF is standing up the National NIBIN Correlation and Training Center—which will ultimately provide NIBIN matching services at one national location, rather than requiring local police departments to do that work themselves.  The Center will provide consistent and capable correlation services, making connections between ballistic crime scene evidence and crime guns locally, regionally, and nationally.  These enhancements will support ATF’s crime gun intelligence and enforcement efforts, particularly in communities most affected by violent crime.
  •    ATF has established an Internet Investigations Center (IIC) staffed with federal agents, legal counsel, and investigators to track illegal online firearms trafficking and to provide actionable intelligence to agents in the field.  The IIC has already identified a number of significant traffickers operating over the Internet.  This work has led to prosecutions against individuals or groups using the “dark net” to traffic guns to criminals or attempting to buy firearms illegally online.

 

  •          Ensure that dealers notify law enforcement about the theft or loss of their guns.  Under current law, federal firearms dealers and other licensees must report when a gun from their inventory has been lost or stolen.  The regulations are ambiguous, however, about who has this responsibility when a gun is lost or stolen in transit.  Many lost and stolen guns end up being used in crimes.  Over the past five years, an average of 1,333 guns recovered in criminal investigations each year were traced back to a licensee that claimed it never received the gun even though it was never reported lost or stolen either.  Today, ATF issued a final rule clarifying that the licensee shipping a gun is responsible for notifying law enforcement upon discovery that it was lost or stolen in transit.
  •          Issue a memo directing every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts.  In the event of an emergency, victims of domestic violence should call 911 or otherwise contact state or local law enforcement officials, who have a broader range of options for responding to these crimes.  To provide an additional resource for state, local, and tribal law enforcement and community groups focused on domestic violence, the Attorney General is issuing a memo directing U.S. Attorney’s Offices around the country to engage in renewed efforts to coordinate with these groups to help combat domestic violence and to prevent prohibited persons from obtaining firearms.

Increase Mental Health Treatment and Reporting to the Background Check System

The Administration is committed to improving care for Americans experiencing mental health issues.  In the last seven years, our country has made extraordinary progress in expanding mental health coverage for millions of Americans.  This includes the Affordable Care Act’s end to insurance company discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, required coverage of mental health and substance use disorder services in the individual and small group markets, and an expansion of mental health and substance use disorder parity policies, all of which are estimated to help more than 60 million Americans.  About 13.5 million more Americans have gained Medicaid coverage since October 2013, significantly improving access to mental health care.  And thanks to more than $100 million in funding from the Affordable Care Act, community health centers have expanded behavioral health services for nearly 900,000 people nationwide over the past two years.  We must continue to remove the stigma around mental illness and its treatment—and make sure that these individuals and their families know they are not alone.  While individuals with mental illness are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, incidents of violence continue to highlight a crisis in America’s mental health system.  In addition to helping people get the treatment they need, we must make sure we keep guns out of the hands of those who are prohibited by law from having them.  Today, the Administration is announcing the following steps to help achieve these goals:

  • Dedicate significant new resources to increase access to mental health care.  Despite our recent significant gains, less than half of children and adults with diagnosable mental health problems receive the treatment they need.  To address this, the Administration is proposing a new $500 million investment to help engage individuals with serious mental illness in care, improve access to care by increasing service capacity and the behavioral health workforce, and ensure that behavioral health care systems work for everyone.  This effort would increase access to mental health services to protect the health of children and communities, prevent suicide, and promote mental health as a top priority.
  •  Include information from the Social Security Administration in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm.  Current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of a mental health issue, they are either a danger to themselves or others or are unable to manage their own affairs.  The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to NICS.  The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent.  The rulemaking will also provide a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health.
  • Remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information to the background check system.  Although States generally report criminal history information to NICS, many continue to report little information about individuals who are prohibited by Federal law from possessing or receiving a gun for specific mental health reasons.  Some State officials raised concerns about whether such reporting would be precluded by the Privacy Rule issued under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA).  Today, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule expressly permitting certain HIPAA covered entities to provide to the NICS limited demographic and other necessary information about these individuals.

Shaping the Future of Gun Safety Technology

Tens of thousands of people are injured or killed by firearms every year—in many cases by guns that were sold legally but then stolen, misused, or discharged accidentally.  Developing and promoting technology that would help prevent these tragedies is an urgent priority.  America has done this in many other areas—from making cars safer to improving the tablets and phones we use every day.  We know that researchers and engineers are already exploring ideas for improving gun safety and the tracing of lost or stolen guns.  Millions of dollars have already been invested to support research into concepts that range from fingerprint scanners to radio-frequency identification to microstamping technology.

As the single largest purchaser of firearms in the country, the Federal Government has a unique opportunity to advance this research and ensure that smart gun technology becomes a reality—and it is possible to do so in a way that makes the public safer and is consistent with the Second Amendment.  Today, the President is taking action to further this work in the following way:

  •          Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Department of Homeland Security to take two important steps to promote smart gun technology.

 

  •    Increase research and development efforts.  The Presidential Memorandum directs the departments to conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology that would reduce the frequency of accidental discharge or unauthorized use of firearms, and improve the tracing of lost or stolen guns.  Within 90 days, these agencies must prepare a report outlining a research-and-development strategy designed to expedite the real-world deployment of such technology for use in practice.

o   Promote the use and acquisition of new technology.  The Presidential Memorandum also directs the departments to review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development to more broadly improve gun safety.  In connection with these efforts, the departments will consult with other agencies that acquire firearms and take appropriate steps to consider whether including such technology in specifications for acquisition of firearms would be consistent with operational needs.

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So lets talk guns. A group of Oregon ranchers have armed themselves and have taken custody of a Federal Wildlife Refuge. They are heavily armed and standoff is now in the fifth day. They maintain that they are fighting against government tyranny. Is this activity protected under the Second Amendment?

I have been watching a live feed from there, the people talking, doing interviews. The building they are in is open to the public, The only time i saw a weapon was when they had a report the military was going to raid the place and then it was 1 person carrying a rifle, I never saw any heavily armed men anywhere. You read this article,a timeline of what has been going on there since the Hammonds bought the ranch and then we will talk about constitutionality. https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/723

But, of course, the Hammonds never asked the Daeshbag Bundys for help.
The rightwing Al-Shabubba issued their own YeeHawd against the BLM in Oregon.
So, the Talibanjo and Talibubbas joined the YokelHaram and YallQaeda to create a Cowliphate of MujaHickDeen ruled by Shania Law.

From what I have seen, the only reason the bundy’s are there is because the people of the town are afraid of the government. that doesn’t make them being there right.

Answer the question please and no double talk this time David. Does the Second Amendment protect the rights of a self proclaimed militia, carrying weapons to seize Federal Land?

You read that article i posted and then I will answer your question. If you refuse to read the article it’s because there just might be something in there that you don’t like. I didn’t pay too much attention to what it going on out there till I read that article. Read it first then we’ll talk.

I’m not gonna play your game sir. You refuse to answer my question. Fair enough.

if you read the article your question would be answered. you play a game with me but when i turn it around on you, you don’t want to play anymore. If you want to have a discussion with me then you better be willing to contribute. I guess that just shows me what kind of person you are.

The answer is Yes, No, Maybe, and Depends on who you’re asking. Revolution is sticky business. Using the power of the militia to protect against tyranny in the government is going to be subject to the same set of conditions and hazards as any armed struggle against the sitting power structure…be it King George of England or The BLM / FBI / United States Government.

The ranchers are gambling with their lives for a cause they believe in. The Federal Government is weighing the pros and cons of exerting lethal force against the ranchers. The Govt. doesn’t want a bloodbath on its hands for cosmetic reasons. The Govt. is biding its time until it can arrive at an amicable solution which makes them look good, or until the militia begins to mess up and make moves which open the door for Govt. propaganda and opportunity.

Yes, the ranchers do have the potential right, but it all depends on their success and backing of popular support. It’s a serious gamble that could end in death, or lengthy imprisonment.

all I have to say to that is history favors the victors.

Dear Exlax Who cares what you think. You are not supposed to be on this site so leave everyone alone.

If the mentality and honesty of the bushes and obummer were of high moral values our country would not be in such dire economic depression which in turn has caused the major portion of our problems. GO DONALD TRUMP you actually our last hope from these EVIL non christians.

It is a well known fact that our fore fathers whom wrote the CONSTITUTION we infact christians and this was expressed into the articles of such – to Obummer of Islam faith despises our constitution/bill of rights and will do anything to destroy our country.

Send the foreign born bum back to chitcago where he can blend with his buddies he released from prison.

All these constitutional scholars on Second Amendment Theory! Yet they deafeningly silent on the defense of almost all the other amendments. If you guys were equally passionate about our Founding Documents as a whole you would have some credibility. Until then just pick and choose the ones you want to defend because the rest of us hear you loud and clear.

And your point is? Elaborate. Tell us what Amendments we should be discussing?

You’re sorta saying a person cannot benefit from the New Testament unless they’ve mastered the Old Testament.

For some depressed guy in a hotel room who’s about to put a gun to his head, and he reaches into the drawer and opens up the book and finds some comfort in a red printed Jesus Quote …what does it matter if he’s ignorant of what Deuteronomy says?

Your argument is condescending and irrelevant. When an issue comes before us like environmental protection and the Tenth Amendment’s we’ll discuss it. Right now it’s the 2nd Amendment and gun control, because guns and violence are dramatic. Duh.

these people are all the same, they want to start a fight and hopefully say something that might look like a huge slam but all it does is show their ignorance.

The arguments towards trying to prevent future attacks with guns are like trying to predict winning lottery numbers. There are millions of unpredictable variables. It’s like keeping a bank vault open and unprotected, advertisong it all over the news, and then trying to predict what opportunistic criminals or hard up citizen will be the one to show up to steal the money. The better strategy is to announce that heavily armed security await anyone who tries to steal the money. In this way Obama and the gun controllers have the argument all screwed up.

EXACTLY!!!

so which personality is this peter? I like what this one has to say,maybe he can come out more often.

originally the definition of mass shooting was 5 or more people but in order to get their gun control bills passed they changed it to 2 or more to make it seem like it’s an epidemic.

The facts about the Adam Lanza Newtown shooting are clear: He was an autistic, obsessive compulsive, anorexic, disturbed child whom his gun loving mother protected and tucked away in her home. She was the reason Newtown happened because she left her plentiful gun collection open to Adam. She took her boys shooting and trained them how to use weapons. But his situation would not have been affected by any of Obama’s proposals, because he simply used his mother’s guns. She was the culprit. So, how in the hell is the Federal Government going to stop lawful gun owners from being stupid and keeping their guns laying around for their mentally ill children to gain access to? That’s the real issue here. Obama is a F-in idiot.

I agree with you on obama but not every body has mentally ill children.

@ David. Can you not tell that Exodus is NIT’S mentally disturbed child, just using yet another name?

even an insane person can have a good idea every once in a while. if he is honest on what he is saying then i agree with him, if he is being sarcastic then thats too bad.

David, just ignore that cretin. I’m being sincere. If people would just stick to the issues and curtail all their personal slant and invectives, we would never have had problems on NIT to begin with. IF I could change anything about the internet it would be to end all personal attacks and just stick to talking points.

Peter, you are the one who started all the bad stuff in here. Your nazi refernces, calling people names, etc. You don’t know how to have a regular conservation without monopolizing it and always thinking you are right. And if I recall, you have been asked to leave numerous times.

The NRA is correct: Obama isn’t serious about solving this issue and he’s not serious bout keeping the American people safe. I read the detailed account of that Newtown shooting. Disgusting. This loser punk went into that school and slaughtered innocent children. You know what would have stopped that demonic punk? A janitor packing heat, or a security guard in the hall. That dumb shit little weasel would have run like a scared piece of shit. Instead he was able to rule the situation.

Whats more precious America? Your F-in dollars down at the bank, or your school children? You can’t dedicate salaries for a few security guards at the place where your CHILDREN are housed? But you can hire a few extra teachers, supervisors,, gym teachers, secretaries and janitors?

These problems are easily solved when America screws its damn head on straight. What deters these punk shits is knowing someone is going to pull out a gun and end them right away. They want easy, uncontested slaughter, and when that isn’t available, they’ll go back to playing their damn video games.

Get Smart America…you dumb shits.

There are millions of vets out there, I would be willing to bet that you could get quite a few of them to volunteer to stand guard at a school, i am one of them that would.

This old funk about letting the police arrive is a load of Sloth Shit. When that deranged maladjusted youth Erik Ayala from Portland, OR went up to 2 girls at a nightclub and shot them dead, and when he shot and injured 7 others, they say it happened in mere seconds. By the time a security guard (whom I presume was packing) made his way over to the shooter, he already stuck his gun to his chin and ended himself. They said he shot and killed himself because the security guard was heading towards him. Which proves my point: When counterforce is applied, these weasel shits end themselves or run like cowards. Counterforce is what we need…not a bunch of pie turn to God and the Police bullshit from a crying President.

Same thing for VA Tech shooter Cho. He wasn’t just mentally ill, he was stalking women. And he had an uncontested, target-rich environment of unarmed students and faculty to slaughter. Had anyone around had a gun to fire back, Cho probably would have run away. Counterforce is the answer. It’s okay to deny someone their 2nd Amendment rights if they are acutely having mental illness issues, but the ban should not be permanent, and psychiatrists should be forced to refile every couple years and explain to the courts why you still need to be denied access to your 2nd Amendment rights.

Demonstrative violence, credible threat, or serious mental impairment should be the only reatrictions.

None of the above pertains to criminals or Islam I presume?

all the executive orders ONLY pertain to the law abiding citizen. Since criminals do not obey the law that means they will not be effected.

So are you going to take away someones rights just because there is a chance that they could become a criminal?

If you had never purchased a gun online you would have thought that obama had a good idea, the fact is that he was lying because you have always had to have a background check if you bought a gun online. You buy it from a warehouse and they send it to the nearest gun store in your town and they do a background check when you go in to pick it up. Obama was counting on people to be ignorant on the subject and agree with him. Notice how easy it is for him to lie, and hillery is better at it!

David, David-I can’t hardly believe that Obama would lie to us. But, then again his lips were moving so I am sure you are right. All he has done is make sure the Republicans win this election. I’ll bet Hellary is really pissed.

@LVS & David Just a question, What would you guys do about this issue if you were the President.

I would follow the constitution, it is a proven fact gun control doesn’t work. There has to be other ways besides limiting the 2nd amendment and as president I would have access to others that are more knowledgeable than i am. I would definitely not react on emotion.

I would follow the constitution and take the issue to congress. Congress has voted this down three times and he is in direct violation of our constitution. He should be impeached immediately.

Sounds like the path that should have been taken in the first place and the path I would have taken also. Thanks for your responces.

Have either you or David read the Constitution? The 2nd amendment?Tell me where it says that every body who wants a gun can have one. And Allen, why don’t you check into 5 East. Get your regular room.

The previous comment was my initial reaction to what I expected from the paranoid. After reading the text above, I would venture to guess that none of you have read what the President is doing. You are depending on what you think he said, what the National Riflenuts Assholes are saying and what other paranoid individuals are proclaiming. The world is ending, the world is ending.

bodacious, have you read it? “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” You see the commas there, they mean something. after it says a free state, comma, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE. That says right there that we ALL have that right and it shall NOT be infringed. Do you know what infringed means? To limit, and every law out there right now that deals with guns limits it in some way or another so that means EVERY gun control law is unconstitutional. Being a liberal though you will disagree with all of it, and if you disagree with that means you disagree with the constitution. Say it isn’t so.

David, I have read it. What you don’t seem to understand is that my view is different than you because I understand that “well-regulated” means just that. You right wingers seem to ignore that part of the amendment. Well-regulated was placed there by our forefathers to ensure that not every person who wanted a gun could have one. You seem to believe that God gave you the right to carry a gun and those of us who believe that guns should be well-regulated are the crazy ones. And, ‘unfringed’ rhymes with ‘unhinged’ which most of those who believe as you do are.

surely you can see the comma there between a well regulated militia and the right of the people. That means it is 2 different thoughts. A well regulated means trained, since there was no national guard or a standing army back then well regulated means the citizens trained with each other just in case.

“Well-regulated” means “well-trained”? I guess that is what it could mean but how do you know that? I know you are old, but you weren’t around back then were you? And David, have you read some of these comments by other posters? Do you really want to be associated with them? These guys, or girls, are nuts.

I’ve done research on the constitution, read articles by experts in the field and experts on old english language and i am confident on what it says and what it means. as for being associated with other people on here, it doesn’t matter what they think or what i think, it only matters what the 2nd means.

I don’t know what the (real) answer to this problem is. But I believe that Osama is trying to take guns away from everybody , so when his muslim brothers come, we will not be able to defend ourselves. Some will laugh at that, but it’s not funny. There are some in the muslim world, hell bent on destroying the US. 10 years ago the muslim world said that they would destroy the US, economically, and really, how’s our economy doing. Taking our guns is just another step in the master plan.

Make background check available online for free to everyone, licensed or not, and most people would use it.

Easier would be to make it illegal for black males under the age of 35 to buy or possess firearms.

Most Black kids don’t carry guns now. That’s what makes it so easy for trigger happy cops shoot them for J walking.

not talking about color here but in the big cities, chicago, L.A., 99% of gangbangers carry guns and the gangbangers are usually the ones from broken families.

Can you site the source of your information? Seriously.

I have fact checked the relationship between gang membership and gun possession. Studies do not back up your 99% claim, not even close.

show me the sources you are using then I will show you mine.

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