By David G. Savage, Tribune Washington Bureau –
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of President Obama’s health-care law Thursday, ruling the government may impose tax penalties on people who do not have health insurance.
The court’s long-awaited ruling rejected a broad legal attack on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act brought by Republican state officials and the National Federation of Independent Business.
The legal challenge focused on the law’s so-called mandate that all must have insurance by 2014 or pay a tax penalty.
The administration defended this requirement under Congress’s power to regulate inter-state commerce. The challengers insisted the mandate was unprecedented and unconstitutional because the federal government would be forcing Americans to buy a private product.
The ruling was not a total victory for the Obama administration.
Chief Justice Roberts, who wrote the opinion for a 5-4 majority, said the required expansion of Medicaid violates states’ rights may be unconstitutional.
“The states are given no choice in this case. They must either accept a basic change in the nature of Medicaid or risk losing all Medicaid funding,” he wrote.
He said the federal government cannot require the states to follow this part of the law.
Robert’s opinion was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.
Justice Anthony Kennedy delivered a dissent for Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr.
How many seniors know the Medicare monthly premiums jump to $247.00 in 2014?
Another new tax…. how lucky for Americans ! DEMOCRATS = spend & tax.
I wonder if I should be purchasing an Orange/Green/White flag to display outside on July 4 ? Or maybe the ‘RED” one with the “5 gold stars” on it ? Could someone please help me on this one?
American Ballad.
And let’s face it Peter, you kind sir have dealt out your fair share of threats, insults, ect. You have been on this site for a long time, let none of us forget when you first got on here throwing your slang around. Sure, you don’t seem to use the nasty language anymore, but you too insult and make threats in a way. Matter of fact, your legality gesture on here, is a threat. If you can’t hack it, then leave. When you blog, you better have thick skin. Because people are not always gonna agree with your theories, not your thoughts. I mean, come on! A person saying they are gonna slap you, when for the most part they probably have know idea who you really are? You are being a big baby. Grow up, take it like a man……..if you even are.
“Legally it may be of relevance as well.” When people start using the “L” word in their arguements, it is usually as a fear factor reflex to silence or intimidate those whose arguements they cannot combat or argue against.
Get use to it, is always his last straw.
Peter, you are right. Even though I would like to slap you around some because of some of your remarks I shouldn’t have said it but they didn’t edit out anything. I discipline my children for swearing so I try not to swear as a role model, and if calling you wimpy hurt your feelings that bad then I apologize. I am proud of what I did in the military, especially my last tour in Iraq. If you really knew what was going on over there and not what the news was telling you, your opinion would change. Not only was some of it down right lies, some of the news got men killed, all for the scoop. You believe all the news and the study you want, it still doesn’t make it true.
Back to the original post, judge Roberts voted the way he did to show that it was a tax thus legal, hence Obama lied to everybody and is now doubling his lies to cover up his original lie. You can cover him with wool, slap some ears and a tail on him and have him go baaaaa but if he slithers on then ground with no legs he is a snake. We will see come November.
What does your employer think of you playing on the computer all day long? You can’t be getting much work done.
UT OH!!
I have finally decided that Peter L enters his posts to fan the flames of emotional outbursts, trying to get people to respond to his posts which automatically cause discord to rational persons. I have come to this conclusion because it is impossible for me to believe that a person can be this stupid and totally lacking in logic and commaon sense unless he is mentally challanged/handicapped. But then again, perhaps Peter L is mentally challanged/handicapped. Hmmmm, that would explain a lot of things.
I came to the same conclusions so I stopped responding. Besides we got way off track. I was reading that Judge Roberts may have voted the way he did to bring to light the fact that Obama lied about it being a tax so instead of being a bad guy he might have been good guy in disguised.
That’s another thing I have noticed about Peter L. Sometimes he goes off on a tangent and doesn’t even address the main issue. It’s as if he is unable to focus on the subject in question without letting his imagination/ego wander in areas that he feels he should be an expert in. And he never defends his position with logic. It’s either insults, innuendos,or plain false reasoning.
“…..Good luck wrangling with that mind of yours Observer.”
I did not wrangle with it at all. The results of the study that was printed, showed a few cases of unreasonable spanking. One example was the child touching the pages while Mom was reading. Poor choice of actions.
How we discipline, and when, becomes a choice of each parent. What works for some, does not for others. But on the whole, A spanking is something reserved for behaviors of insolence and outright disobedience, or lying. It must never be used in anger. When you are angry, you walk away. Any other emotion being displayed by a parent is fair game. Disappointment is one that is quite appropriate.
It has been my experience that “Time Outs” per se are useless. They do not reinforce anything. If my son pulls his sisters hair, he would be made to go back, and not only apologize, but admit to his sister he did something wrong. This must start at a very early age.
It is a consequence, and when used over and over, the message becomes pretty clear. If I pull sis’ hair, this is what will happen. And both parents must follow it to the letter of the law, and equally.
The next most important and highly effective agent of discipline is taking away privileges. You don’t want to pick up toys? Fine, I will, but guarantee you will never see them again. Again, there must be uniformity between Mom and Dad as to when and how this happens.
But, the biggest and most important method of discipline, is being the role model. This do as I say, not as I do is what confuses a child to no end. It never works. Be honest and human. When you as a parent do something wrong, step up and say so in the moment, in front of the kids if the situation exists. In modern lexicon, the term “d’oh” seems to relate it better than anything else.
But when they crossed the well defined line, they were spanked, and knew exactly why.
And the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.
Observer, I agree with those parenting measures you outlined. So why are you and I in disagreement about spanking? The type of spanking I see is arbitrary, whimsical and most certainly occurs when the parents are overstressed, underintellectual white trash, or black trash. Good family dynamics don’t resort to such measures. When it occurs in public, it makes everyone uncomfortable…as it is a form of violence played out right before your eyes and ears. If your child has gotten so bad to the point you need to spank them, you’ve already failed.
New mothers and fathers take warning. It’s YOUR BEHAVIOR THAT COUNTS THE MOST…your children are just extensions of your maturity or immaturity.
Peter L. Wow
A legend in his own mind.
“….. then I’ll be donning the uniform and taking up arms…and not a moment sooner.”
That sir, is quite a leap of faith. It makes assumptions that you even qualify to serve in the Military.
“Dear (fill in the blank):
The United States is no longer going to help it’s friendly countries out under any circumstances. We realize what is happening there right now will jepordize your future, and create a state unfriendly to Freedom and Democracy, and perhaps become a threat to us.
But our policy now, according to Peter L is to no longer intervein in affairs outside our borders. We are sorry, but we can no longer help you on your quest to remain free. Perhaps ask Russia if they are willing to help.
With Regards,
The President of the United States”
Watch how many friends we will have after that.
What does your employer think of you playing on the computer all day long? You can’t be getting much work done.
free stuff is fun, june 28, 2:12pm talked about the free cell phone program. Could someone elaborate on this please? Haven’t heard anything about this yet but am extremely interested. Thanks. Sounds like more tax money being spent freely for questionable reasons.
I was a manager of a casino in Vegas when I went to Iraq. I was injured and am now on disability. I make less than 10,000 a year so I am on a program where I get 250 free minutes a month through virgin mobile. There are probably other programs out there, this is one of them through the V.A.
Peter, how about your heros, FDR and Truman, killing millions with your tax dollars and most of those were innocent civilians. LBJ same thing. There’s Clinton authorizing the Waco slaughter.
Try to stay on topic and tell us how this thing will be paid for. No more, hey look over there and try to distract and go to another topic. How will this socialized medicine be paid for? Never any good answers, just distractions.
Another Obama investment doing well – your tax dollars at work under Obama Investments. I trust his ObamaCare plan – don’t you??
Today — (CBS News) “It was number 17 on the White House’s 100 Recovery Projects That Are Changing America list. Now, Abound Solar is about to join the taxpayer-supported green energy firms that have filed for bankruptcy.”
“Abound Solar was approved for a $400 million dollar taxpayer loan guarantee under the same program as did now-bankrupt Solyndra.”
How will we pay for it? Lofty ideas are just that. But who will pay for it? Take an economics course and figure everything out. You will not get the best and the brightest for providers in such a system. They will migrate elsewhere. Good luck with your future surgeries, etc., people. There is a reason people from all over the world come here to access our healthcare system. You must use facts and some rational reasoning powers. When I was young I believed in the tooth fairy too but then make believe time was over as an adult. Premiums and taxes are going to increase, is everyone on board for wanting that? Reform is needed but not this.
You don’t even want to go there wimpy, the fact that you even made that statement says you never even wore the uniform. Now I am back to wanting to slap you again. Let me guess, you are a demacrat? Just trying to spell it correctly made my stomach turn.
Alrighty then try any 3rd world nation then, and you remind me of the character wimpy from the Popeye cartoon.
Roberts basically wrote you voted this in at the polls, if you don’t like it vote for the other side.
My question is: Who pays for the 11-plus million illegals and their 1.4 million kids? (Loaded question!!!!!)
Don’t pay attention to the person behind the curtain…he’s a poor soul who has nothing better to do that spout his crummy philosophy…many times misspelled, etc.
Very pleased! To quote our great president, “It should be pretty clear by now that I didn’t do this because it was good politics. I did it because I believed it was good for the country.”
Too bad you right-wingers can’t see that we finally have someone in the White House who cares about EVERYONE, and not just the wealthy.
A GOOD DAY INDEED!!
Oh….BULLSH*^!!!!
You got it – “Everyone” — the free-lunchers and the working people. Only thing is Obama doesn’t have many in the country working. Unemployment is extreme, his policies are all for the free-lunch seekers.
How could you find good in this crazy health care/welfare bill?
It kills ambition, penalizes the the working man, rewards laziness, and puts America farther into debt.
Are you crazy or just plain stupid?
Could we at least stop the free cell phone program? Just sayin.
No, don’t take my free Blackberry Bold and cell service away. I need it to call and text my 6 kids at home while I’m out partying and looking for another new father who can pay child support. The Bold works so well that I don’t have to get off my fat lazy ass to do anything but satisfy myself.
Yeah, just sayin.
What happens when the well off, tax paying, punished for being successful & independent of the government, folks run out of money to cover all the new taxes demanded by OBIMBOCARE ? Where will the money come from then ???? Welfare maggots have no clue, never did !
FROM NIT STAFF: Please refrain from name calling.
DOMINATION & CONTROL…. come on Peter… that is exactly the driving force behind the LIBERAL MACHINE ! Nearly half of Americans are dependent upon the U.S. Government and that is how the “L.M.” likes it.
The U.S. Government has been failing for several years, all the way back to the Carter Admininstration of the 70’s ! Holy Yikes America . SPEND & TAX, drive up the national debt no matter what the consequences – that’s the Liberal Machine. Americans need to take responsiblity for survival, as there are far too many dependent upon the welfare system with millions taking advantage of & screwing the system over, generation after generation. It’s a vicious cycle !
God help the future children of America, or should we start calling ourselves MEXI-MERICA and raise the “green, orange & white” flag on this July 4th instead of the “BEAUTIFUL – RED & WHITE & BLUE”, or maybe even raise the flag of CHINA, as they own a huge chunk of Ameican debt. One day the July 4th celebration of our nation’s independence will be abolished, too. It’s happening everyday , bits & pieces at a time. Atheists & Muslims are at war against the U.S. and everything this great nation was founded/built upon. Look around you America – bits & pieces disappearing every day.
American has become a nation of “entitlements” – HOW SAD & VERY SCARY
I have yet to read the whole decision, however I get a sneaking suspision that the Justices decided on what was argued, and nothing more. This means of course (speculation on my part at the moment).
More after I read the decision and writs.
Well, in my inital reading of the 193 pages of the decision, my suspisions are quite founded. The decision itself, looks at an Amicus that was not volunteered, but urged and chosen by the court.
The legislation itself was written in a rather ingenious way, so as to collect taxes, yet not not call it a tax, nor impose the usual tax collection proceedures under the IRS code.
I have yet to digest it all. And some parts become hard to follow. I will also need to read the arguements to this case, to see what what was covered, and what was not.
Are you saying it was originally written to be a tax even though they told us it wasn’t going to be a tax?
That is exactly what it appears to be.
So every one of these polititians that are laughing and saying it is a great win knew it was all a lie, they need to be tared and feathered and stripped of their position. I know that lying is a part of the job but if I lie to a police office officer I can go to jail, or if I lie to a judge I can go to jail but it is fine for them to lie to us and get reelected.
socialism is not that bad. Its only bad for those of you who have decided to work for a living to get these things.
For me, I will just sit back and collect all the benefits that I deserve from the fruits of your labor.
All I can say is, thanks for making it all happen. 4 more years, a sure thing!!!!!!!!
Typical welfare maggot…..burn in h*ll skank
The “welfare maggots” love this one. U.S. will go bankrupt by 2020 for sure, if not much sooner. Sad day for AMERICA 🙁
Mr. Eastside….must be one of those welfare maggots. 69% of Americans do not support O’care…..unemployment will soar in this country!!!!!! God help us all.
The Liberal machine wants all Americans dependent upon the government , plain & simple, and extremely frightening !
Ice cream for everyone! Have fun paying for it everybody!
After reading this posting it now answers alot of questions I had about you peter, now instead of wanting to slap some sense into you, you now make me laugh. I now have a mental image of you, if you give me a hamburger today I will gladly pay you on tuesday.
Boy you left yourself wide open for that one but I will let it go…………………….. This is harder than I thought, I want to say it soooooo bad.
“A recent study showed that parents who resorted to corporeal punishment stunted intellectual growth in their children.”
This is incorrect. One of the best examples I can offer is the High School I attended. Physical consequences were used for discipline problems.
But let’s look at the results. Over 90% of those graduating got a college degree. Not from Community Colleges either. DePaul, Notre Dame, Northwestern Law, and the like. Most today hold positions of prominence, own their own business, or have retired (if you make enough money, you too can retire early).
A much higher percentage than what you might find of graduates from a school where discipline was not even enforced, or at best, consequences were a slap on the wrist.
The results speak for themselves Peter.
Wimpy is right in a way, you can find any study to go along with your point of view, right or wrong. All I know is God said spare the rod spoil the child. I was spanked as a child and I turned out all right. I never went to college but I owned my own business, I managed a casino, I think I did OK.
Just because some old people called judges say it is constitutional does NOT mean it is right. Now they will have to go another way. A bad bill is still a bad bill. It will costs us a fortune. The correct thing to do is to save the good parts (there are some good parts) and junk the rest.
In a Newsmax.com article the owner of Burger King stated that if this went through his insurance premiums would go up by 18 million dollars, he would have no choice but to layoff or fire up to 1/4 of his parttime workforce and some of his fulltime people. Can you imagine all the other business out there how this would effect them and how the unemployment rate would climb?
It is called fear David. “If this happens, this will happen and boy will you be sorry” Burger King won’t miss the $18 million. It might mean they will have to cut the CEO’s salary by 1/4. Big Business, as do most other entities in this country, operate on fear. They try to make us all believe that the worst is going to happen and tell us how it will affect us. Then, they hope, the public opinion will fall in behind them and continue to pound the point until a new method of fear is found. Don’t worry about Burger King. They will continue to do just fine.
Peter L — You are messed up in the head!! I’ve seen all your comments on here and your are jacked in the head to believe the way you believe..
Legalizing illegal drugs are his solution to most everything in life. From what I have learned here on NIT, most people know him for what he is, not what he thinks he is. Just wait until he starts replying to his own comments. That’s always entertaining for me to watch
A win for all !Thank You Obama
Only if you like to be taxed to financial death.